Rules on mixing Fancies? Question

  1. hollie1505 Well Known Member Member

    I currently have an Oranda/Fantail and Two Fantails in a 40Gallon and I am in the process of upgrading them to an 85Gallon and adding two Ranchus. I know there are some 'rules' regarding mixing fancy goldfish and I was wondering if there was any clear information on what (not) to do?

    The breeder I am getting the Ranchus from has Pearlscales and I was wondering... hoping I could add one? They don't have any visual impairment like Black moors etc. But are significantly rounder than my Fantails.

    Whilst I'm here I'm looking for decent Goldie food if anyone has a brand they trust, We'd appreciate it :)

    Thank you.x
     
  2. Akari_32 Fishlore Legend Member

    I've never had a problem mixing my fancies. In fact, in my pond, you can count on my moor, Luna, being first to food just about every time.
     

  3. hollie1505 Well Known Member Member

    Thanks. My purse isn't so thankful but my tank sure will be :)
     

  4. Rivieraneo Moderator Moderator Member

    Hi hollie, i dont think there are rules per say, but there are things one needs to be aware of to maintain the best care for mixed fancy goldies. Fan tails, ryus and moors are pretty good swimmers, so during feeding time, its important to feed a few soaked sinking pellets at a time so the fast ones can fill their mouths and start chewing, I then like drop in a few more pellets and so on until the feeding is complete so the slower orandas, lionheads, ranchus can get a fair share from the feeding. Ryu's have also been known to be bullies, so watch for any aggression should you choose to add one. Best of luck with your goldfish tank, cant wait to see it :) I love goldies!
     

  5. hollie1505 Well Known Member Member

    Hi :) thanks for the info. I have always had goldies but I'm only just really starting to learn about them.

    I'm having enough trouble identifying the three I have... My oranda has a fantail body and my calico fantail has a ryukin spine, like the arch if you know what i mean. But she's tiny, about an inch so she could change lots i suppose.Should I identify them before deciding on my final line up?

    They are hand fed so I don't anticipate too many problems feeding. Is there anything I could do for the Ranchus in QT? Would hand feeding help?

    What plants do you keep with yours? Sorry about this last question, completely irrelevant but in t dying to get their 85 as goldie friendly as possible :) thanks a lot.x
     
  6. millca Member Member

    Most goldfish won't eat anubias plants or java ferns. There are some nice anubias plant types that look great. I'm not such a fan of the Java fern look and they tend to be messier than my anubias plants.

    As for food, New Life Spectrum brand offers some great sinking pellets of various sizes. My goldfish LOVE the Repashy Solient Green gel food I feed them a couple times a week. Then I've also heard great things for Hikari purple bag goldfish pellets.

    Be sure to check out Solid Gold's YouTube channel. She has a bunch of videos that cover a ton of goldfish topics.
     
  7. poeticinjustices Well Known Member Member

    I'm mostly in agreement with the above. Personally, I would keep the visually-imparied fancies and the other types of fancies separate. Beyond that, I think it's mostly about making sure everyone gets fed and balancing the individual personalities. I LOVE hand-feeding my fish when I can :)

    By the way, I read that sometimes ryus with a lesser hump are sold as fantails, so that might be what you're noticing :)

    I didn't have a good experience with the Saki-Hikari (purple bag) and, in general, I have seen some pretty immediate floatiness in my guys after feeding Hikari, so I won't be feeding it anymore, but there are others that haven't had this problem. I heard mention of a red bag of Saki Hikari, super expensive, used by the pros sometimes. I haven't seen it or looked for it because I'm happy with what I have my guys on now (NLS Thera A 1mm), but I've seen it mentioned.
     
  8. hollie1505 Well Known Member Member

    poeticinjustices LWormy post #4 says about Ryus and aggression. Sorry my phone wont let me post the link :( xx
     
  9. lala29 Well Known Member Member

    I have a fantail and what i believe is a ryukin in a 29 gallon together. Theyre inseparable and hate leaving each other!
     
  10. LWormy Member Member

    I have no personal experiences with keeping ryukin, so I am only relying on the internet. I hope I am wrong, but a lot of people said that they will attack visually impaired goldfish and even suck their eyes out.