River Stones For My Goldfish Tank ? Also Pump Needed ?

Discussion in 'Goldfish' started by Goldfishgirlgirl, Aug 2, 2017.

  1. Goldfishgirlgirl

    Goldfishgirlgirl Well Known Member Member

    im shopping for the rocks for my newly purchased 75g goldfish tank. I want to create a clean look ( no live or fake plants) . I actually bought some rocks from our local aquarium but I kinda regretted and wanted to return as the rocks I got have sharp edges. I'm afraid they may hurt the goldfish. Could I get a bag of river stone from a garden centre and put them in the tank ?

    How do I clean them ? Are they safe to use or I have to get the rocks from the aquarium store just to be safe ?

    2nd question , I bought this relatively expensive filter 100gl/hr from this aquarium store ( the one placed inside of the stand - highly recommended by the staff - I hope it's not because he wants his commission ) , but he did say I don't need a pump at all as the good filter does provide enough oxygen so the pump (bubbles) is really for decoration purposes only .. Should I trust ?

    I plan to get around 5 goldfish in this tank
     
  2. BottomDweller

    BottomDweller Fishlore VIP Member

    The rocks should be fine. Put a little vinegar on each rock. If it bubbles it is not safe, if it does nothing then it's safe. Rinse the rocks before putting them in the tank.

    For a 75 gallon goldfish tank you need a 750 GPH filter minimum. 100 GPH is not going to cut it. But anyway if there is plenty of surface agitation then you don't need an airpump.

    5 Fancy goldfish or singletails? I would do 3 fancies but 4 maximum. The general rule for stocking fancies is 20 gallons per fish.
     
  3. andychrissytank

    andychrissytank Valued Member Member

    Can you list the specific filter, my 10 gallon tank has a filter 100gl/hr
    You should on average have a flow rate 10 times larger than your gallon size
    75G- 750 gl/hr
     

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  4. Angelfishlover123124125

    Angelfishlover123124125 Valued Member Member

    I have a 100g goldfish tank with just 8 very young fan tails and it has no pump.For my fish it's fine.
     
  5. Dave125g

    Dave125g Fishlore Legend Member

    Think OP is talking about a canister filter as it goes in the tank stand.
     
  6. Ankers

    Ankers Well Known Member Member

    Yeah the rocks should be fine personally I would boil them
     
  7. OP
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    Goldfishgirlgirl

    Goldfishgirlgirl Well Known Member Member

    Here are the details of the filter I bought . Is it enough for the 4 fancy goldfish I plan to buy without pump ??
     

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  8. JesseMoreira06

    JesseMoreira06 Well Known Member Member

    I personally think it depends on which Fancy Goldfish you would like to keep, If you wanted a range of Fancies like 2 Oranda (8-9") , 2 lionheads (5") , 1 Ranchu (5"), I think 5 is okay in a 75g but if you wanted all Orandas then I would only do 4 maximum.

    The Fuval 406 (383gal/h) is exactly what I have on my 75g Fancy goldfish tank with a AC 50 as a HOB to great more surface agitation and obviously extra media. so I would recommend adding a hang on the back filter to help with surface agitation and extra filtration.

    In my 75g I have 5 FANCY goldfish.

    1 Blue Oranda
    1 Red Cap Oranda
    1 Ranchu
    2 Lionhead

    also don't forget to feed a good staple pellet such as Omega one goldfish pellets (pre soack them in a cup of aquarium water for few mins before feeding) Goldfish need more veggies then they do protein in their diet so atleast 2-3 times a week you should Feed boiled veggies such as brocoli, spinach , zucchini , carrots ect. VERY improtant to feed them once a week boiled de shelled peas to help with digestion , and you could also give ONCE a week frozen bloodworms or Brine shrimp.
     
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  9. KinsKicks

    KinsKicks Fishlore VIP Member

    I think that should be fine; it's gph is 383 which is the "just right" chair for filtration. However, I do recommend running a large sponge filter (you don't anything crazy fancy, but you will need a pump if it doesnt come with one) or extra HOB to help boost the gph a bit as well as provide the extra oxygen; goldfish are very oxygen dependent.

    But this is also dependent on the goldfish;what kind are you getting?
     
  10. BottomDweller

    BottomDweller Fishlore VIP Member

    That filter is 385 gallons per hour. Personally I'd do a bit more but it should be ok as it is a canister. Maybe add an internal filter.
     
  11. OP
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    Goldfishgirlgirl

    Goldfishgirlgirl Well Known Member Member

    I want to get 2 lionhead, 1 ranchu, 1 red cap , 1 blackmoore. Is it ok ? Would this filter work if I add a pump ? Does it matter What kind of pump I'm getting ?

    Also just to make sure, I have to return the rocks (rough texture with sharp edges ) to the aquarium store for the safety of the goldfish right ?
     
  12. OP
    OP
    Goldfishgirlgirl

    Goldfishgirlgirl Well Known Member Member

    I think I will just get baby fish for the Blackmore, red cap and ranchu. The adult ranch is too expensive for a beginner ?
     
  13. KinsKicks

    KinsKicks Fishlore VIP Member

    Baby fish will still grow up to be adults; you always have to keep in mind of the adult sizes.
     
  14. JesseMoreira06

    JesseMoreira06 Well Known Member Member


    IMO it should be fine , ranchu and lionhead and black Moore only get 5-6" max , oranda 8-9", it's fine for a 75g if you stick to those Fancies you just said.

    I would go with a Hang on the back filter , try getting a Aqua Clear 50 (200gal/h) , it'll create more surface agitation to allow more oxygen and also for more filtration
     
  15. Dave125g

    Dave125g Fishlore Legend Member

    Over filtering a gold fish tank is best ,with there large bioloads.
    Getting young fish is nice, because its rewarding to watch them grow to healthy adults.
     
  16. OP
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    Goldfishgirlgirl

    Goldfishgirlgirl Well Known Member Member

    Thank you ! So 2 filters and no pump ?
     
  17. Dave125g

    Dave125g Fishlore Legend Member

    You can get an air pump and air stone for more oxygenation. I don't imagine your gonna go live plants, as the goldfish will just eat them.
     
  18. OP
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    Goldfishgirlgirl

    Goldfishgirlgirl Well Known Member Member

    I've decided to have only 3 fancies in this tank. The tank will be delivered to me tmr. Can't wait . I have rinsed 3bags of black sand ahead of time ( they r not totally clean - still a little cloudy .. hope it's ok )

    Also for now I don't plan to put any rocks or river stones in the tank .. just the black sand substrates
     
  19. OP
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    Goldfishgirlgirl

    Goldfishgirlgirl Well Known Member Member

    Also I can't seem to find any nice fancy goldfish in Canada . Any recommendations?
     
  20. Dave125g

    Dave125g Fishlore Legend Member

    Trinsfish.com is highly recommended. I got plants and my L183 pleco from them, all arrived very healthy.
     




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