:( Rest in peace little frogs

  1. Lucy Moderator Moderator Member

    Some of you might remember I lost one of my youngsters back in Nov.
    This infection has reoccurred twice since then.

    Last night Papa and son succumbed to either the infection or the meds were too much for them.

    Papa was about 5 and his son was about 4 years old.

    Mama is hanging on. I hope she makes it.
  2. Akari_32 Fishlore Legend Member

    Aw, I'm sorry Lucy :;hug2 I hope mama frog hangs in there!

  3. lorabell Well Known Member Member

    Im sorry to this toooooooo......
  4. Lucy Moderator Moderator Member

    Thanks Akari and Lori.

    It looked like the infection was getting better after 4 days of treatment.
    On the other hand, I knew the meds in the water were getting to them.
    Tough choice, stop treatment early or give them a water change they desperately needed.

    Guess I made the wrong choice. I feel like rather than treating them last night, If I had chosen the water change, they might have survived the night.
    BUT, the infection probably would have continued anyway.

  5. Akari_32 Fishlore Legend Member

    Who knows, last night could have been it, anyway :(

    What is it that you're dealing with?
  6. Lucy Moderator Moderator Member

    It's some sort of bacteria infection.
    Outwardly, it started in one flipper, like their little toes are all of a sudden gone.
    Then the flipper is just about gone, leaving a stump which gets swollen and pinkish and a secondary fungusy infection.
    It happens almost overnight. Whatever it is, it's mean and fast moving.
  7. Akari_32 Fishlore Legend Member

    Man, that sucks :( What are treating with? I find RidIch (with my fish <.<) is a pretty good all-around treatment. Theres an all natural version of it too.

  8. Lucy Moderator Moderator Member

    Maracyn 1 and 2.
    Can't really do any stronger than that with frogs.
  9. Akari_32 Fishlore Legend Member

    Yeah, wasn't sure. Just throwing ideas out lol I wonder if you used something else, like the RidIch, and diluted it. Perhaps the stuff is starting to get immune to the Maracyn?
  10. Lucy Moderator Moderator Member

    Yeah, I imagine it can develop an immunity.
    I'm not sure RidIch would have an effect, isn't that only for ich?

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  12. Lucy Moderator Moderator Member

    Well see what happens with mama.
    I've got her in a 2.5 at the moment.
    The only thing I could think to do was get her into fresh water.

    I'll switch her to a 5g later this afternoon.
  13. Akari_32 Fishlore Legend Member

    Hopefully she pulls through! Can't really say what else to try :( Get creative, I guess? I seem to know just as much as you do about this mystery fungus stuff :/
  14. Lucy Moderator Moderator Member

    It's definatly bacterial, the fungusy stuff is secondary at the site of the infection.
    I used moroxy for the secondary infection.

    But yeah, I'm clueless.
    Stopping treatment would have allowed this to continue.
    On the other hand they were bugged by the meds in the tank.

    I've been warned against blood worms as a staple.
    After all these years, I was pretty confident feeding them.
    Perhaps a bad batch in the beginning of all this.
    Who knows.

    Without necroscopy it's a guessing game.
  15. Akari_32 Fishlore Legend Member

    Hm... In the mean time, maybe start soaking their food in garlic at every feeding. Garlic soaked blood worms make my frogs feisty ;)

    What brand of Blood worms do you use? I'll have to stay away from them <.< I've been using Hikari Bio Pure (or something like that). They only get it every couple weeks. Mostly they get frog pellets.
  16. Tigerlily Well Known Member Member

    So sorry you lost them, Lucy. I hope the mama will pull through.
  17. MD Angels Well Known Member Member

    Sorry to hear this Lucy! :( What a horrible thing! I really hope Mama can get through it!
    How long do they live, just out of curiosity? It sounds like they were a good age?
  18. catsma_97504 Fishlore Legend Member

    I'm sorry to hear your frog are still having issues. Good luck with Mama.
  19. Lucy Moderator Moderator Member

    Thanks everyone.

    Laura, from what I've read the average is about 5 years but I have read where some have kept them much longer.
    (lol this is a topic I may start a thread about)

    Akari, I used hakari also. After the first frog got sick in Nov. I switched to san francisco bay since thats all the store had.
    I don't blame the companies.
  20. Wendy Lubianetsky Well Known Member Member

    Sorry about your frogs. It is frustrating treating something you are not 100% sure of what to do. I hope your mama makes it.