Random "rant" - need to vent.

ZombieKeepr
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Ok ... so first things first.

1) I am NOT trying to start a fight
2) I'm singling out NO ONE nor a specific forum. This one in particular has been incredibly friendly and mostly open minded to start with so it's definitely not a complaint about anything here. I love you guys ... haha

Anyways ...

I'm having an issue. My GFs 20gL isn't stocked the "best" because shortly, she's moving down here to FL with me[!! SOO excited! I love this chick so much! xD] so I advised that she combine as many tanks as possible to try to make the whole process easy as possible. lol ANYWAYS ... she's basically bombarded by "helpful" members about how it's stocked.

Granted, I get that they're concerned about the fish, but their ways of talking to her ... well, irk me. It's not just cuz she's my GF, it's the fact I don't like that anything different is SUCHHH a big deal and they basically act like we're idiots. Umm ... well, TBH, I don't really care what they have to think. lol She was only wanting to show off her tank's aquascape and her fish.

We're both used to keeping aquariums and she does have fall back options[including possibly just getting rid of EVERYTHING in the first place, but neither of us really want that] so WHY is it that we're bombarded because we keep goldfish and tropicals together? Especially when if there's no aggression, no stress, and the water is kept clean, it's never proven to be a problem[and it's not gonna be like this for tooooo much longer]

Most of these fish are good-will rescues if that makes sense. Singe, her dwarf gourami wasn't looking too good when she got him because of his prior tank mates and other things but now, because of her, he's doing amazing! He's already growing back his feelers. Machete and Tanchi[2 goldfish] are rescues from a WM tank and just typical fantails/ryukins. They've proven to DESPISE the cold[get lethargic but in the REALLY sick kinda way] but they love slightly warmer temps.

IDK ... I just ... don't get it. People can't make a suggestion and just leave it at that, noooo ... you get attacked for ANYTHING they see wrong. I swear, some people would complain about a single guppy's well being in a 150gal if they had the chance! xD Granted, it might be out of pure care, but it's not their fish and overall, we're ALL only there to advise. Not control.

Thanks for letting me talk. lol
 
Ethan
  • #2
you said you aren't singleing out no one then single someone out
 
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ZombieKeepr
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
Who did I single out? I wasn't trying, I swear! xD xD [just FWIW, it's on another forum this happened, but I'm not saying which one]
 
Ethan
  • #4
don't need any other forums fishlore is the way to go
 
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Jaysee
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I've got no problem with keeping goldfish with tropicals. I often put tropical in quotes because many of the tropical fish in the hobby don't need as warm of a tank as they are usually kept in. But, I think there are a lot of people eager to help and a lot of people who are enjoying learning about the hobby, and that involves sharing knowledge that they've learned. Also, there is a general knee jerk reaction to certain things, and goldfish with "tropicals" will prompt such a response EVERY TIME.
 
SugarJunkee
  • #6
You should TOTALLY not keep that poor guppy in a 150 gallon tank all by himself! He'll start having a serious complex, thinking nobody likes him and will start swimming along the glass to use his reflection as his only friend.

I couldn't resist

I'm sure you guys have been taking good care of the fin kids, and hope the move is easy on you all! Sometimes life happens and you have to do your best to roll with it. Here's to getting settled in soon and safe for the fishies!
 
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ZombieKeepr
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  • #7
Exactly! But I just get annoyed when people act like they're so much more intelligent then you and try to claim you're killing your fish/seemingly take it out of your hands.

We are FAR from the type of people who enjoys seeing any living thing suffer and we do our best to stop it[we've rescued many a betta to prevent and untimely death with a pretty great success rate!] but unfortunately, some times things happen that are beyond our control[fish get old, heaters malfunction, etc.]. With that said, the fish seem very happy with their surroundings so I really don't get why people can't learn and adapt knowledge vs. write it off as impossible or "inhumane".

ROFL @ the guppy, SugarJunkee! xD xD I was thinking that too.
 
Ethan
  • #8
I don't see the love for goldfish tbh... I have not a clue what people see in them. give me cichlids barbs tetras corys plecos anything over goldfish anyday
 
AlanGreene
  • #9
Depends on the tropicals but in general is is not correct to do this so of course people will be concerned, is it not pretty much self explanatory that people will try to help you if they see something they think is incorrect? If I were you I'd be happy that people are trying to help and calmly explain to them that the tropicals are of a lower water temperature kind and that the overstocking is temporary as you are moving, I definitely wouldn't be getting upset about it.
 
ZombieKeepr
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  • #10
OntheFry: IDK ... I think they're cute and their personalities are WAY underrated but it's honestly a matter of personal preference. I'm not gonna force you to try to like them. xD

AlanGreene, We explained that, tho. People seem to have a very hard time READING the full story. It's like when the same people yelled at me for my divided 20gL with 5 bettas because they thought it wasn't divided. It's kinda funny. It's not advise, it's much more the mentality of "we say no, so you don't get to." Yeah, that don't fly.
 
Jaysee
  • #11
Every time
 
Adambull1990
  • #12
I have 4 tanks at present and I have had a fair few fish who have been bullied by fish that they are supposedly compatible with. Now when I have moved them to a separate tank for a minimal time till I can make different arrangements with fish they are not meant to get in well with, they have been fine and I have left them in there basically because they prefer it there.

Granted this is not gonna happen all the while, and I do have to make different arrangements. However, if you find that certain fish are happy with each other and it is not making any odds to the water conditions/health of the fish then why should you change this??

Just be happy in the knowledge that the fish are happy and safe.

Yeah it is good to get advice, but you have the first hand knowledge of how your fish are, and if you think something is good, roll with it!!
 
ZombieKeepr
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  • #13
That's an interesting thing. Over time, it seems you learn some fish just THRIVE in conditions you wouldn't otherwise try. However, I'm a firm believer in making a change when something is failing right before your eyes and it could lead to the demise of any fish. That's not the case in this tank, they're just talking about in the future. In the future, they're gonna have my 55[or a 72] to play in. Not even a little worried ATM.
 
Reefdweller
  • #14
If you are talking about a particular forum. I bet I know which one it is.... I will never use it because of the very reason you are talking about. Just sayin.......
 

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