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Just how things came to be. Two standard tests were developed to supposedly evaluate student readiness for college. Two tests to profit from. A dark interpretation of standard testings.
CollegeBoard is surely making millions of dollars out of it.
 

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I was actually about to make a snarky remark about 'Yay, capitalism" but then removed it lol. Didn't want to trigger anyone with my socialist ways.

If it is any consolation, there are problems in any system. We have a rather jarring grading system where it has become ingrained somehow that it is objectionable to give people the maximum grade. The grade scale runs from 1 to 10 (10 being highest) and it is virtually impossible starting in HS and continuing in college to get a 10/10. And often a 9/10 too. Anything above an 8/10 is meant to be very exceptional, and is kept that way - as in, it often isn't tied to objective standards but rather the perception that a 10/10 is only supposed to be handed out once in a blue moon to signify particularly, above and beyond exceptional work - and is out of reach the rest of the time.
It is a recurring theme in politics (and among some old people) to bash modern students as lazy and having poor work ethic as they often settle for scoring a 6/10, which is just over the minimum passing grade (5.5). This is referred to as the six-culture.
Which is unfortunately in truth a result of the fact that teachers are geared to giving students the passing 6 grade. My brother quoted one of his college professor as having mentioned once that in his 17 years of teaching, he had never given a student a 10 because that was reserved for that once-in-a-lifetime student.
My of Dutch HS teacher had such a strict policy of aiming for the 'perfect average' which was according to her a 6.7, that if students did too well and the grades came out above a 7 on average, she would adjust the grading scale. AFTER the test had already been graded. It's basically a bell curve but even worse. Pointing out to her that this made it impossible for even the most brilliant students to get high grades unless there were some students in the same class that did very poorly, prompted the response of "so what's wrong with that, you don't need an 8. A 7 does perfectly fine."
Needless to say she was hugely unpopular, and she was excessive, but the sentiment wasn't unusual. I later read that the british 'ivy' universities like oxford have an explicit policy for Dutch grades where the Dutch 1-10 scale is not converted 1:1 with the 1-4 or A-F grade scale, but instead an 8 is considered a high grade (A) and then it goes stepwise down from there. The 9/10 and 10/10 are basically ignored as if they don't exist :p Which I guess is good for that one student in my year who had a 9 on average. Also doens't make you a popular person, lol. Too much jealousy.
 

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I was actually about to make a snarky remark about 'Yay, capitalism" but then removed it lol. Didn't want to trigger anyone with my socialist ways.

If it is any consolation, there are problems in any system. We have a rather jarring grading system where it has become ingrained somehow that it is objectionable to give people the maximum grade. The grade scale runs from 1 to 10 (10 being highest) and it is virtually impossible starting in HS and continuing in college to get a 10/10. And often a 9/10 too. Anything above an 8/10 is meant to be very exceptional, and is kept that way - as in, it often isn't tied to objective standards but rather the perception that a 10/10 is only supposed to be handed out once in a blue moon to signify particularly, above and beyond exceptional work - and is out of reach the rest of the time.
It is a recurring theme in politics (and among some old people) to bash modern students as lazy and having poor work ethic as they often settle for scoring a 6/10, which is just over the minimum passing grade (5.5). This is referred to as the six-culture.
Which is unfortunately in truth a result of the fact that teachers are geared to giving students the passing 6 grade. My brother quoted one of his college professor as having mentioned once that in his 17 years of teaching, he had never given a student a 10 because that was reserved for that once-in-a-lifetime student.
My of Dutch HS teacher had such a strict policy of aiming for the 'perfect average' which was according to her a 6.7, that if students did too well and the grades came out above a 7 on average, she would adjust the grading scale. AFTER the test had already been graded. It's basically a bell curve but even worse. Pointing out to her that this made it impossible for even the most brilliant students to get high grades unless there were some students in the same class that did very poorly, prompted the response of "so what's wrong with that, you don't need an 8. A 7 does perfectly fine."
Needless to say she was hugely unpopular, and she was excessive, but the sentiment wasn't unusual. I later read that the british 'ivy' universities like oxford have an explicit policy for Dutch grades where the Dutch 1-10 scale is not converted 1:1 with the 1-4 or A-F grade scale, but instead an 8 is considered a high grade (A) and then it goes stepwise down from there. The 9/10 and 10/10 are basically ignored as if they don't exist :p Which I guess is good for that one student in my year who had a 9 on average. Also doens't make you a popular person, lol. Too much jealousy.
Wow, that sounds like a terrible grading policy, no wonder it discourages students. I'm glad none of my classes have been like that, it would make me miserable to not even be able to hope to get a perfect score (I am an obsessive perfectionist when it comes to grades sometimes). And I don't know about everyone else here, but as someone trapped in a capitalist system that I wish I could get out of, I have no objections to you insulting it. :p
 

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Wow, that sounds like a terrible grading policy, no wonder it discourages students. I'm glad none of my classes have been like that, it would make me miserable to not even be able to hope to get a perfect score (I am an obsessive perfectionist when it comes to grades sometimes). And I don't know about everyone else here, but as someone trapped in a capitalist system that I wish I could get out of, I have no objections to you insulting it. :p
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I can imagine why, haha. I think A-F itself is a pretty great idea, getting something like a 7.6 instead of a 7.8 etc. can sometimes make for weird dissatisfaction when it makes virtually no difference. On the other hand I got graded on that scale during my bachelor and the great joy at getting an A wears off quickly if you get them constantly and everyone gets them :p So both have its disadvantages.

How are you today? For that matter, how is everyone today?
 

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Permission now officially granted :borg:
I can imagine why, haha. I think A-F itself is a pretty great idea, getting something like a 7.6 instead of a 7.8 etc. can sometimes make for weird dissatisfaction when it makes virtually no difference. On the other hand I got graded on that scale during my bachelor and the great joy at getting an A wears off quickly if you get them constantly and everyone gets them :p So both have its disadvantages.

How are you today? For that matter, how is everyone today?
I'm doing pretty good today. Spending some time getting caught up on school work and working on getting back on a decent schedule, all of which is going rather well. My Developmental Psychology class is proving to be quite the hassle, though.
 

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What I have about my math exams is that my teacher says there are 5 questions on the exam. Easy right? but every question has sub questions so it goes like this.]

1. solve.

a)blah blah blah solve this

b) blah blah blah also solve this

and i think you get the point.
 

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What I have about my math exams is that my teacher says there are 5 questions on the exam. Easy right? but every question has sub questions so it goes like this.]

1. solve.

a)blah blah blah solve this

b) blah blah blah also solve this

and i think you get the point.
The universal truth about math. They trick you into making it look short and simple while hiding thirty subquestions into of three "main" questions.
 

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What I have about my math exams is that my teacher says there are 5 questions on the exam. Easy right? but every question has sub questions so it goes like this.]

1. solve.

a)blah blah blah solve this

b) blah blah blah also solve this

and i think you get the point.
Yeah! And each part is worth multiple points too.
 

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Oh! and the tests have different parts, like part 1 questions, part 4 questions and part 3 questions you have to justify AND explain your answer/reasoning. And its worth the most on tests.
 

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Ouch! One of my altums bit me! :D

Question for all you college or high school kids: What fish are you currently keeping and what tank size?

For me, I am currently keeping altum angels, which are my dream fish! I have them in my 90 gallon. Length is 4 feet long. Width is about a foot long and height is 2 feet (wish the tank was taller). The angels are still juvenile and they have a lot of growing to do. I can't wait for them to grow big and tall! Not to mention that I'm a full time college kid who is currently taking classes at some school while raising one of the most sensitive fish in the aquarium hobby!
 

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Ouch! One of my altums bit me! :D

Question for all you college or high school kids: What fish are you currently keeping and what tank size?

For me, I am currently keeping altum angels, which are my dream fish! I have them in my 90 gallon. Length is 4 feet long. Width is about a foot long and height is 2 feet (wish the tank was taller). The angels are still juvenile and they have a lot of growing to do. I can't wait for them to grow big and tall! Not to mention that I'm a full time college kid who is currently taking classes at some school while raising one of the most sensitive fish in the aquarium hobby!
Since I'm in high school, I have six tanks. 4 ten gallons and two five gallons. One five gallon has a betta, and the other has a black rose neocaridina colony. The ten gallons hold (each separately) a bloody mary colony, a dream blue neocaridina colony, a pair of german blue rams, and german blue ram fry (this tank is only half full).
They're all in my room because my parents don't want to deal with them haha
 




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