Ramshorn snail reproduction

Trekker1125
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I *accidentally* got a hold of some pink ramshorn snails and decided to do an experiment to figure out if they are indeed capable of asexual reproduction (as not ALL hermaphroditic creatures can self-fertilize).
Background: I knew it was a possibility to receive some ramshorns with some new floating plants I had ordered since the seller had them in his tanks, but I kept an eye out for them and as I found them I plucked them out to isolate them. I had read on various forums that they are hermaphrodites and can breed asexually, but also read very sparingly that there wasn't sufficient research to show if they do in fact breed asexually or not, and one single post on a forum that said they do not. I prefer to keep snails that do not leave egg pods around the tank, so I really wanted to know if they do or not before I decided to keep any of them in my tanks.
Method: I had found 4 small delicate snails, clear shell with a small pink dot inside them. I took a risk and added one (the largest) to a small tank that I had cycled but that I hadn't added any inhabitants to yet. It is planted and had some minor algae in it as some good starter food, and I planned to feed some snail food as the algae decreased. For the other 3, I decided to keep them in something that I could keep a closer eye on. I used regular Mason jars (no lid), and put the next largest one by itself, and the last 2 together in another jar. I have changed their water for new tank water every 2 or 3 days and fed them daily, alternating small bits of "snail snacks", algae wafers, and snello.
Results at 7 weeks: It has been 2 months since receiving the plants, and 7 weeks since finding the snails. On the first evening, the snail in the small tank was feeding away on the algae of the plant it had first been introduced to. The next morning I could not find him or his shell and I have not seen him ever since (this is still driving me crazy and I have been keeping the tank cycled just in case, but I am thinking that this one is no longer with us). The snails in the Mason jars, however, are still alive and well. I knew it would be a bit before they start breeding, so I hadn't really been checking for eggs. They're in clear Mason jars, so I figured it would be pretty obvious when it did occur.
Yesterday, I decided to add some riccia moss that I had received (unfortunately with a lot of algae in it, but fortunate for the snails I suppose). I upsized their jars to accommodate their growth and the addition of the moss as well. The single snail immediately began munching away and later buried himself into the moss. Today there is plenty of poop at the bottom of the jar indicating he was a busy bee throughout the night, and I observed him hanging out on the underside of the floating moss today. The pair of snails... well, when I went to try to fish them out of their old jar, I felt a small hardened lump on the side of the glass, almost like a drop of dried tree sap. I looked closer, and it was a small, crystal clear egg pod! 6 pods in total, with about 12-15 eggs per pod (I *think*, they're tiny and clear so it is hard to count). 2 of the pods have a tiny little white-ish speck in the middle of each egg (picture attached). I carefully checked the old jar of the single snail, and no egg pods were present.
7 Week Conclusion: I'm pretty sure that this indicates that the ramshorn snails do not reproduce asexually. It is possible, however, that they simply prefer not to reproduce asexually, so it may be holding out for a partner and end up laying eggs by itself later on. I will continue to keep this one little guy isolated and time will tell. Of course, one solo sample may not be a solid representation of all ramshorns, so once these eggs hatch I may isolate more and see if the results are consistent.

Any info regarding experience that anyone may have in relation to this is welcome. I will also try to add more to this to confirm or disprove the current results.
 

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jtjgg
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the 1st in the tank, you might want to look very closely inside the filter. i've found many baby ramshorns inside of my filters.

nice experiment. are you going to keep the one ramshorn by itself and see if it'll eventually reproduce asexually?
 
Trekker1125
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  • #3
the 1st in the tank, you might want to look very closely inside the filter. i've found many baby ramshorns inside of my filters.
I have a sponge filter in there, I didn't really give much thought to that... but now that I'm thinking about it, it could have gone in through the top. It's the kind that sticks to the side of the tank with a suction cup. Next time the filter sponge is due for a squeeze out I'll take the whole filter out and check inside the tubes.
nice experiment. are you going to keep the one ramshorn by itself and see if it'll eventually reproduce asexually?
Yes, I'm planning to keep the one isolated just to see. I figure if it will reproduce asexually, adding it to the larger space with the moss and plenty of algae might help it along. Hoping to have some of the eggs hatch to continue with a few more isolated ones to confirm (if the current one still doesn't reproduce).
 
Trekker1125
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  • #4
8 Week Results: The isolated snail still has not produced any eggs. The lil guy has certainly done an excellent job at cleaning the moss up though! I've attached a photo of this snail with his moss and a photo of the moss pre-snail.

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The pair of snails are still producing more eggs, and I even caught them in a warm embrace (photo included of course). No baby snails yet.
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8 Week Conclusion: Still no evidence of asexual reproduction in these cute little pink ramshorn snails.
 
Trekker1125
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  • #5
11 Week Results: The single ramshorn snail has still not produced any eggs, and has grown a bit larger than the pair. I keep rotating in new algae covered moss for it and it keeps munching away on it. I started leaving the waste in the bottom of the jar a couple weeks ago and just keep checking the water parameters and it is surprisingly staying good, so its like a miniature walstad environment. The water is crystal clear, the riccia looks great, and the snail is actively munching and crunching and never hangs out at the water surface. I just sprinkle in some new water every few days to top it off (from evaporation).
The pair are still mating and putting out eggs like crazy. I've even lessened their food intake in an attempt to decrease the eggs and it doesn't seem to affect their production at all. Still haven't seen any baby snails, but expecting to within the next couple weeks.
11 Week Conclusion: It still appears that a single ramshorn that is isolated soon after hatching cannot reproduce asexually. Hoping for some new baby snails from the pair to isolate a few and compare results.
 
StarGirl
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Watching. This is very interesting. I had red rh in my 5g with no food but algae and biofilm and they still exploded. I have little clear grey ones in my 9g right now.
 
Debbie1986
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I had 1 ramhorn in my shrimp tank (6 gallon) solo last year. he got HUGE like size of a quarter

no babies

He died sadly and was my favorite snail.

I have ramshorns in all 10 of my tanks ( they breed like crazy) , but he was the only 1 I personally cared about because I got to 'know' him being solo in the tank. RIP Pinkie.
 

Trekker1125
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  • #8
I had 1 ramhorn in my shrimp tank (6 gallon) solo last year. he got HUGE like size of a quarter

no babies
Thanks for sharing! Sorry for your loss. It's great to hear that your loner didn't lay any clutches also. My solo one is about dime-sized now, would love to add the little guy to one of my tanks. Wish they didn't lay so many clutches so I could add a few to each tank. The jar with the pair of ramshorns is covered in clutches and decreasing feeding didn't slow them down, so I'm really hesitant about adding more than one to my tanks.

Watching. This is very interesting. I had red rh in my 5g with no food but algae and biofilm and they still exploded. I have little clear grey ones in my 9g right now.
Glad you're finding it useful. I figured I was a bit overboard with it, but I know I would appreciate having the info available instead of guessing. I really like the ramshorns, but I am worried about an explosion of snails and having clutches all over the tank.
 
Fisch
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Hi, I would be interested in an update.
It looks like I successfully eradicated my Ramshorn population in my 55gl tank, and my single assassin snail may be starving.
I am thinking of moving the assassin into the 10gl cycled QT which houses plants, a full grown Ramshorn, an egg laying Nerite and several little bladder and Ramshorn snails.
If indeed the Ramshorn alone does not reproduce, I could move it and the Nerite into the 55gl without restarting a ramshorn explosion.
Otherwise I have to move the individual ramshorn into a jar for the time being.
I am over thinking.....
 
mattgirl
  • #10
my single assassin snail may be starving.
Assassins will eat shrimp pellets :)

I would love an update too. This is a very interesting experiment.
 
Fisch
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Assassins will eat shrimp pellets :)

I would love an update too. This is a very interesting experiment.
Thank you so much, good to know. No wonder that he hangs out around the catfish feeding area.
 
Fisch
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Screenshot_20211228-203247.pngSo now we will be able to put the theory to test.
My big (3/4") Ramshorn was in the breeding net in the big tank for ~5days, and today she escaped. So now we shall see if there will be a new wave of Ramshorn snails. I will keep you posted :)
 
Fisch
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Day 14 Update:
No Ramshorn babies to this point in the 55gl, I keep my fingers crossed.
She is the most active snail in the tank (looking for mates?), fun to watch.
On the other hand the evicted assassin snail in my QT has a big selection of Ramshorns, they multiply on a daily base.
 
Trekker1125
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  • #14
Fisch Love the blue!
Update: My single ramshorn is still munching away and no eggs to be seen. I finally have some baby ramshorns that hatched from the pair. They are just teeny tiny little specks at the moment. I will likely add a single ramshorn to one of my tanks once the babies get big enough. I'm thinking about separating the pair to see how long it takes before they stop putting out eggs. I know some snails can hold sperm for a long time to lay eggs many months after mating.
 
Fisch
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So with your last update middle of November at 11 weeks, that would be 18 weeks now.
That is fantastic.
 
Fisch
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Day 21 update
No offspring :D ...I love it.
She is very active and very visible, really cool to watch.
 
mattgirl
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I really didn't give it much thought until now but I had 1 adult ramshorn in my shrimp bowl for several months. Although I was feeding my shrimp well no more showed up in the bowl. When the number of shrimp exploded I removed both the ramshorn and a small mystery snail I had in there.

This is another example of no explosion of babies if we only have one ramshorn in our tank. :)
 

Fisch
  • #18
Day 21 update
No offspring :D ...I love it.
She is very active and very visible, really cool to watch.
Day 28
Still no eggs and no snail babies
 
Trekker1125
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  • #19
So from August 29th til now, the single ramshorn has not reproduced on its own. Along with other folks' input, I think it's reasonable to conclude that they cannot reproduce asexually, even though they are hermaphroditic.

As for the pair of ramshorns that were housed together, I now have a bunch of snabies from them. Although they were mating maniacs for a long time, I have noticed that they have slowed down a bit on clutch production, which I am thinking may be due to having a bunch of baby snails running around. I just separated one of the babies into its own jar of moss, and plan to add the little guy to one of my aquariums once it's a little bigger. I will likely do the same with a couple more of the little guys in a week or so when they are a tad bit larger. This has definitely been a fun learning process, and I hope it was helpful for others.
 
Fisch
  • #20
64 days, no babies :rolleyes:
This experience is so much fun and totally changed my opinion in regards to snails. May be because I am in control instead of being controlled by a snail explosion.
I started two jars with additional young snails, they are laying eggs since they are in the jar. Curious how long they will produce eggs.
 
aniemarie14
  • #21
So from August 29th til now, the single ramshorn has not reproduced on its own. Along with other folks' input, I think it's reasonable to conclude that they cannot reproduce asexually, even though they are hermaphroditic.

As for the pair of ramshorns that were housed together, I now have a bunch of snabies from them. Although they were mating maniacs for a long time, I have noticed that they have slowed down a bit on clutch production, which I am thinking may be due to having a bunch of baby snails running around. I just separated one of the babies into its own jar of moss, and plan to add the little guy to one of my aquariums once it's a little bigger. I will likely do the same with a couple more of the little guys in a week or so when they are a tad bit larger. This has definitely been a fun learning process, and I hope it was helpful for others.
I accidently got a single stowaway ramshorn with some of my plants back in November. It's huge now and with it being the only ramshorn in the entire 20 gallon tank I have not seen any egg pods or baby snails. I think you're right in your conclusion. Nice experiment!
 
Fisch
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Adult Ramshorn is still Single...I stopped counting and just enjoy :)
 
Fisch
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Still the lonesome rider in the tank...
As (s)he is adult and a year old I am raising the next one in a jar.
 
Fisch
  • #24
Would like to keep this thread alive as it supports a nice experiment. My single adult Ramshorn is still single. She is slowing down a bit
 
Trekker1125
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  • #25
Would like to keep this thread alive as it supports a nice experiment. My single adult Ramshorn is still single. She is slowing down a bit
Hey there, one of the oldest ramshorns I had from this experiment has slowed down as well. It almost seems like it's foot is sticky. A couple times over the past few weeks it has spent about 4-5 days laying on the gravel not moving, with a clump of the gravel stuck to its foot. The first time I tried to help it by gently wiping the gravel away and it started toove but just ended up with a clump of gravel again. A couple days later it was roaming around on some leaves. There are mystery snails in that tank too and they are all fine, so I'm not sure whats going on with it. It is pretty large and Ill be sad to see it go.

The oldest ramshorn in a jarrarium has quite a bit of algae growing on its shell, but it's still roaming around doing its thing. It isnt quite as large as the one in the tank, but makes sense since it doesnt have as much food available.

The "family" jar hasn't reproduced much in a while. Got one clutch that hatched within the past few months and that's it, no other egg clutches around. I guess they decided they're at capacity for now.
 
Fisch
  • #26
Yes, I have a single one in my 20gl, but that one does not get than a Dime for some reason.
 
StarGirl
  • #27
I have a big blue on in my 5g that has not reproduced also. :)
 

Fisch
  • #28
May there be a difference that pink ones,are more prolific?
 
Trekker1125
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  • #29
May there be a difference that pink ones,are more prolific?
Mine are all pink, they started off being super prolific.
 
jtjgg
  • #30
depends on how much food is available
 
Fisch
  • #31
Original single adult Ramshorn passed away last night....measuring 1inch, he did not reproduce during the year he was in the 55gl and then 125gl tank.
 
StarGirl
  • #32
I dont think they live very long. I had a grey one that just was dead one day too. My blue one I will have to see how long it lives.
 
Fisch
  • #33
I dont think they live very long. I had a grey one that just was dead one day too. My blue one I will have to see how long it lives.
Never thought I could get attached to a snail. I have three jars with single Ramshorn snails, have to see which one can upgrade to the big tank.
 
StarGirl
  • #34
Well my big blue is in the 9g now that I tore down the 5. Still no babies from that one. Been in 2 different tanks with baby gudgies and then fish and shrimp. So plenty of food. Especially the baby tank. I really do think RH if caught before breeding age just dont breed. That is not true of MTS I know that for sure. One snail produced many, many snails. I have not had enough Bladder snails to see about them though.
 

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