Questions About Aquascaping

suttont11
  • #1
1.
In this video, they use a carpet plant I really like but requires co2. Where would be the cheapest place to get some? (Not DIY)

2. Once I have the co2 equipment, how do I preform a c02 "injection".

3.
In this video, the man on the left (with the smaller aquarium) adds his plants onto the wood. How can they grow without touch the substrate?

4. If I were to do something like that with the plants on the wood, what would be the best way to do it?

5. Anyone have a cool low tech nano aquascape with no usage of co2?

6. How many times a week or a month would I have to preform a co2 "injection" on a 5 gallon tank, 6 gallon tank, and a 9 gallon tank. (I know those are pretty odd sizes but I'm looking a fluval tanks)

7. What is the best way to clean an aquascape?

Thank you for sticking around for all these questions. I plan for next christmas to buy a fluval tank of some sort (Or maybe something else) and doing a nano aquascape. Right now my only experience with plants is having 3 anubias growing in my betta 3 gallon marineland contour. In the aquascape I only plan to have maybe some shrimp but possibly nothing. Any links to videos with easy nano aquascape tutorials would be appreciated as well as links to sites and feel free to share pictures of your aquascape. Thank you!
 
Jocelyn Adelman
  • #2
1/2 cheapest co2 is probably a paintball set up, after all the tubing is connected to the tank, along with regulator, diffuser, bubble counter, +/- solenoid you just turn it on.
3/4 certain plants do well mounted, anubias, Java fern, mosses. Others need to be planted, rest left floating. When mounting you can tie using thread or fishing line. You can also use zip ties. Even super glue (certain brands of cryanolactate) can be used to attach plants.
5 nothing nano on my end, but a lot on here have amazing nano scrapes, check in the aquascaping section.
6 co2 is run constantly, usually starts an hour before lights on, time off depends, some do an hr before lights off, some right at lights off, others run 24/7. Co2 needs to remain pretty consistent to not have issues with algae.
7 don't overfeed, stay on top of tank maintenance. After things root well you can hover above with a gravel vac.
 
ashenwelt
  • #3
Well you can easily carpet with many mosses with low light. What is you end all goal?
 
suttont11
  • Thread Starter
  • #4
1/2 cheapest co2 is probably a paintball set up, after all the tubing is connected to the tank, along with regulator, diffuser, bubble counter, +/- solenoid you just turn it on.
3/4 certain plants do well mounted, anubias, Java fern, mosses. Others need to be planted, rest left floating. When mounting you can tie using thread or fishing line. You can also use zip ties. Even super glue (certain brands of cryanolactate) can be used to attach plants.
5 nothing nano on my end, but a lot on here have amazing nano scrapes, check in the aquascaping section.
6 co2 is run constantly, usually starts an hour before lights on, time off depends, some do an hr before lights off, some right at lights off, others run 24/7. Co2 needs to remain pretty consistent to not have issues with algae.
7 don't overfeed, stay on top of tank maintenance. After things root well you can hover above with a gravel vac.
There are some items on Amazon. (I really don't wanna do anything DIY). An item I have looked at is the Fluval MinI Pressurized 20g-co2 kit - 0.7 ounces. Would that be good for what I'm planning? Also for the co2 times you were talking about... My lights are on a timer. They turn on at about 9 o'clock and go off at 7 o'clock. So on a timer, everyday it would put in co2 from 8 to 9 o'clock? Thank you for your responce.
 
ashenwelt
  • #5
There are some items on Amazon. (I really don't wanna do anything DIY). An item I have looked at is the Fluval MinI Pressurized 20g-co2 kit - 0.7 ounces. Would that be good for what I'm planning? Also for the co2 times you were talking about... My lights are on a timer. They turn on at about 9 o'clock and go off at 7 o'clock. So on a timer, everyday it would put in co2 from 8 to 9 o'clock? Thank you for your responce.
Are you looking at budget today or this quarter or this year?
 
suttont11
  • Thread Starter
  • #6
Are you looking at budget today or this quarter or this year?
My budget 250 dollars.
 
ashenwelt
  • #7
My budget 250 dollars.
Including light or not? And what width and height tank?
 
suttont11
  • Thread Starter
  • #8
Well you can easily carpet with many mosses with low light. What is you end all goal?
My end all goal is to have a carpet that uses plants exactly or closely like the carpet plants used in the red rock video. If I cannot achieve that because of the price, I will do something closely relating to what is done in the Fluval video.
 
ashenwelt
  • #9
My end all goal is to have a carpet that uses plants exactly or closely like the carpet plants used in the red rock video. If I cannot achieve that because of the price, I will do something closely relating to what is done in the Fluval video.
So this would run... probably a couple years.

This is a cheap kit someone could throw up:

Fluval 88g-CO2 Bubble Counter $3.39
Fluval Ceramic 88g-CO2 Diffuser $5.49
Fluval CO2 Indicator Kit $8.88
Milwaukee Instruments MA955 Solenoid Valve for Co2 Dosing $37.50
Paintball CO2 Tank $24.99
Prime Wire & Cable TNO24111 2-Outlet Pigtail with 24 Hour Electro Mechanical Timer $6.34
Rhinox Airline Tubing, 2 Check Valves $7.99
UP AQUA UA-168 paintball and disposable bottles Regulator $38.49
Total: $133.07 (current retail)

Maybe throw on this light and run with it on a five.

EVO Clip 3W 6500K Aquarium LED Freshwater Plant Flex Clamp Nano 6x 3W

Oh the prices above are Amazon prices.
 
suttont11
  • Thread Starter
  • #10
Including light or not? And what width and height tank?
I am not sure about this. I am looking at getting the Fluval Flex 9 gallon (110 dollars) and the Fluval edge 6 gallon (149 dollars on Amazon or 120 at petco) I really like these two tanks. I can't get anything bigger. Not because of the price, I would just like to keep it below 10 gallons.
 
ashenwelt
  • #11
I am not sure about this. I am looking at getting the Fluval Flex 9 gallon (110 dollars) and the Fluval edge 6 gallon (149 dollars on Amazon or 120 at petco) I really like these two tanks. I can't get anything bigger. Not because of the price, it's just my parents don't want me to have a big tank for some reason. It's in my room...
For aquascaping you are better off with a rimless package or build your own.
 
suttont11
  • Thread Starter
  • #12
For aquascaping you are better off with a rimless package or build your own.
Ok I think I know what you mean... In the red rock video they give a link to their site to buy the tank they used which I believe is "rimless". But with the Fluval Flex, wouldn't that still be ok as you can take the complete lid off? Also that item I told you about (the Fluval MinI Pressurized kit which is about 25 dollars), would that cover my co2 needs?
 
ashenwelt
  • #13
Ok I think I know what you mean... In the red rock video they give a link to their site to buy the tank they used which I believe is "rimless". But with the Fluval Flex, wouldn't that still be ok as you can take the complete lid off? Also that item I told you about (the Fluval MinI Pressurized kit which is about 25 dollars), would that cover my co2 needs?
The minI would get very expensive over time. I could not in good conscience recommend it.

As for the flex, it is about the light. If you want to do a dwarf baby tears or Monte Carlo carpet the light will lrobubly not be up to it. Oddly the Spec V (current version) probably would be. You could try a flex... but they are very new and I really just don't know.

To give an idea this tank eats 88g of CO2 in just under a month. Or about 10 bucks a week if I was using 20g. So I wouldn't use a minI outside of like a Pico tank.

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suttont11
  • Thread Starter
  • #14
The minI would get very expensive over time. I could not in good conscience recommend it.

As for the flex, it is about the light. If you want to do a dwarf baby tears or Monte Carlo carpet the light will lrobubly not be up to it. Oddly the Spec V (current version) probably would be. You could try a flex... but they are very new and I really just don't know.

To give an idea this tank eats 88g of CO2 in just under a month. Or about 10 bucks a week if I was using 20g. So I wouldn't use a minI outside of like a Pico tank.
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I totally agree with you about the Flex. It is incredibly new, only having 1 review on the 9 gallon and 7 on the 15 gallon on Amazon. Maybe by Christmas time I will look at the reviews again but for n9w I agree that it is too new. The fluval edge looks pretty promising though. Think I don't really like about the Spec V is that it almost seems two dimensional. It is really long in length but only have a width of 6 inches which looks pretty weird with the length of 17 inches but I would still look into that tank. I don't like the Fluval chI at all. Thank you for your responces.
 
ashenwelt
  • #15
I totally agree with you about the Flex. It is incredibly new, only having 1 review on the 9 gallon and 7 on the 15 gallon on Amazon. Maybe by Christmas time I will look at the reviews again but for n9w I agree that it is too new. The fluval edge looks pretty promising though. Think I don't really like about the Spec V is that it almost seems two dimensional. It is really long in length but only have a width of 6 inches which looks pretty weird with the length of 17 inches but I would still look into that tank. I don't like the Fluval chI at all. Thank you for your responces.
The edge is considered and absolute nightmare to scape. Cool looking and needs a replacement light but a little bitty spot to scape. Oh and is completely unsuitable for a Betta or other air breathers by design IMHO.
 
Nada Mucho
  • #16
My end all goal is to have a carpet that uses plants exactly or closely like the carpet plants used in the red rock video. If I cannot achieve that because of the price, I will do something closely relating to what is done in the Fluval video.

Most carpets like that are high light and high CO2 like Hemianthus callitrichoides (dwarf baby tears) which might be what he's growing in that tank. I'm very happy with my Marsilea hirsuta (water clover) carpet though it's not as tight to the ground but it requires low to medium light and no CO2.

Just a thought.
 
Merlin79
  • #17
Marsilea hirsuta is really nice. Kind of like a four leaf clover.

It doesn't require co2 and only low-medium light.

That's an option if you don't want to do co2
 
Jocelyn Adelman
  • #18
I have marsilea crenata, great groundcover!
 
Nada Mucho
  • #19
I have marsilea crenata, great groundcover!

I may try that in the betta tank I'm doing for the competition. I picked Marsilea hirsuta for my current tank because it needs less light than crenata but crenata looks tigher together and closer cropped. Hmmm
 

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