PYTHON

Isabella
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I have heard so much about the Python gravel vac. But I just don't get how it works! I mean, if you connect it to your faucet, how can you fill the tank with dechlorinated water when you're taking that water directly from faucet? Or did I get it wrong? I can't visualize how that works! Same with siphoning water out of tank. How exactly does that Python work and by what mechanism does it work? I may be getting a 75G tank soon and it would be too much work for me to change the water in a 75G tank with a regular siphon tube that I use in a 30G tank.

P.S. Python is a brand name of the product?
 
Janmitch22
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Flip the switch. When the switch is turned one way, it's in "empty the tank" mode. When it's turned the other way, it's in "fill the tank" mode.
 
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Isabella
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Oh! That sounds so easy and practical! Thanks And you can connect it to a faucet so that you can fill a bucket with water, right? Because you first have to dechlorinate that water. When a bucket is standing on the ground, it's at a lower level than is the tank. So, will Python able to fill a tank with the water from the bucket, even if the bucket is at a lower level? Just flip the switch and it will work this way?
 
Janmitch22
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Nuh-uh, the Python operates on the water pressure from your faucet. The syphons you see all over the place depend on gravity, like you mentioned with the bucket and the tank and stuff.

Just run the python from your faucet to your tank and pour in dechlor et al as the water is running in. The Python is meant to obliterate buckets from your water-changing routine altogether! Especially with a 75, man, you'd be at it all day.
 
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Isabella
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But I can't imagine adding chlorinated water to my tank before dechlorinating it! What do you mean by "pouring in dechlor as the water is running in"? Pour it in where if one's not supposed to use a bucket? Pour the dechlor into the tank? But when you do that, the water will NOT be mixed well with the dechlor. And as you're pouring chlorinated water in, it will reach the fish's system sooner than that water can be mixed with the dechlorinator. See? That's what I was afraid of. If the Python works that way, I won't use it, because I cannot imagine pouring chlorinated water into my tank.
 
Janmitch22
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Yeah, but it's the only way with the Python. Even the Python people say it: See the last question under "Technical Support". I don't think it will matter how quickly the water reaches your fish, really. But I'm still learning.
 
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Isabella
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Thanks Jan for the article and for trying to help . I know I am bothersome, lol. Sorry for that! Here is what the article says:

"How do I add conditioners to my water when refilling my tank? When refilling with your NO SPILL, the tap water is being aerated, removing some of the chlorine so most tank owners will not find it necessary to use chemicals. If you wish to use chemicals in your tank, you may simply add them into the stream of water as you are refilling."

I really don't like that idea Jan Plus, I don't even know what faucet aerators and adapters are. No idea if my faucet has anything like this. I'd have to ask my dad, he knows this stuff. I know nothing about mechanics and electricity, lol.
 
Janmitch22
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To be honest, me neither. I think I know what an aerator is.... Look into your faucet (where the water comes out) and that screen thing is the aerator, I believe. I think. You know what, you're better off asking your father. lol
 
Gunnie
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Isabella,
I have always added my dechlor in the stream of water as it goes back into the tank, and have never lost a fish doing it this way. I would not have a 100 gal. tank in my living room without a python to do weekly maintenance.
 
ncje
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In Japan they don't add chlorine to water. THe water is kind of soft, with PH of 7. The nitrate reading I get is 0. I usually syphon off attaching a house to my syphon, then attach the hose to the faucet for refill. I add a little blackwater extract, but not the recommended amount. My angels are doing great.
 
teddybear22482
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I agree, I have ALWAYS added dechlor while filling the tank, usually I add the recommended amount to the first bucket then just straight water in the other buckets. Ive never had a problem with my fish dying or getting sick. NEVER. I wouldnt worry too much.
 
ncje
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In australia I had 150 gallon MalawI tank and I did exactly the same thing (lots of chlorine in aussie water). As the water went in I would mix one bucket with all the water conditioner and as the tank filled just slowley pout it in bit by bit.
 
Jason
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Do you know who makes the python vac and which companies supply it???
 
teddybear22482
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I'm not sure who makes it...but you can buy it at Walmart. Most pet supply stores carry it too
 
Gunnie
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Python website
 
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Isabella
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OK, I've received that Python a few days ago from Big Al's Online. And I've used it today for a 50% water change in my 30 gallon tank. That is, only to remove water from my tank, not to refill. I have to tell you that it really does save so much time! It cuts my water-changing time in more than half. Good stuff I am still a bit hesitant to add dechlorinator to the stream of running tap water, as it is filling my tank. So I filled a large 15 gallon container with tap water via Python. Then I dechlorinated it and poured it into my tank with plastic 1 gallon bottles. Even with that, I saved lots of time because before I used to carry 1 gallon bottles from the sink to the container, and then from the container to the tank (after dechlorination) ... I know, lol ... don't say anything. It was 15 gallons with each water change for the last couple of months ... yeah.
 
not4you
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I'll add another vote of confidence to adding the dechlor directly to the tank when refilling with a Python. I've never had a problem and you'll save even more time!
 
justhelping
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I've not had a problem either, adding the stuff to the tank as it's being filled back up with water from the python.
 
Eskielvr
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Before the Python I had to change my 55 gallon tank with a 1 gallon bucket......not only was it back breaking and made a big mess, it took forever too! I'll never go back to doing buckets again, I LOVE my Python.

As for the chlorinated water, as the water shoots out it gets aerated and takes some of the cholorine out. When I'm done filling my tank I add stress coat to it (which also removes chlorine) and that's it. I've never lost a fish doing it that way.

Speaking of which, I'm just about to change my 55 gallon now.
 
Gunnie
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I would not be without my python! I don't think I'd have a 100 gal. tank for very long without one! I have never lost a fish due to adding dechlor in the stream going back into the tank. My biggest problem is the temperature of the water when I refill the tank since I hook it up to the hose outside. Sometimes I have to go a couple of extra days before doing a water change because it's just too cold!
 
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Isabella
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Yeah ... a 100 gallon tank and no Python ... I can't imagine how you'd manage that! Read what Rex Grigg from PlantGeek said about a certain guy with a 125 gallon tank: ... LOL ... unbelievable!
 
atmmachine816
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Where's the switch located?

Well that's a funny story Isabella
 
Eskielvr
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To get it to siphon, you pull the little green thing that's attached to your faucet down, you'll see water shooting out the bottom, that means it's on siphon. To get it to fill, you take the same green part on the bottom and push up on it and twist. You won't see water gushing out the bottom so you'll know it's on fill mode.

Also, there's a switch near the end of the tube that you can use to stop the siphon or stop the water from filling until you can get to the sink to shut it off.
 
pnctar
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The Python system works exactly like a waterbed fill/drain kit. I've had several waterbeds (don't anymore) and still had the drain kits around. Last week I purchased an extra large Python siphon ($11 on sale) and a female connector ($5) at Petsmart. Then added a 25 foot Marine/RV hose ($9) from Lowe's. Hooked up the drain kit, hose, connector and siphon. Now have the same system (except on/off valve) for around $25 instead of $90. Just an idea to save a few $$$.

Steve
 
atmmachine816
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So you don't need to run back to your faucet to shut if off the, because I always thought you did
 
ewolfe315
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Isabella said:
But I can't imagine adding chlorinated water to my tank before dechlorinating it! What do you mean by "pouring in dechlor as the water is running in"? Pour it in where if one's not supposed to use a bucket? Pour the dechlor into the tank? But when you do that, the water will NOT be mixed well with the dechlor. And as you're pouring chlorinated water in, it will reach the fish's system sooner than that water can be mixed with the dechlorinator. See? That's what I was afraid of. If the Python works that way, I won't use it, because I cannot imagine pouring chlorinated water into my tank.
Isabella,
I kinda agree with you here as I just use 5 gallon buckets and I am also very leery of the chlorimines getting into the tank more than the chlorine but everybody uses them , so I guess there is'nt a problem. Only thing I see that can be troublesome is guessing on how much water you take out and how much your adding in, especially with the de- chlorinator. The Start Right and ACE that I use have to be measured.

The only way I see it,is you'll have to mark your tank at the half way mark with a marker. And the best way to do this is first using 5 gallon buckets. I don't have one(Python) and I sure could use one for the 120 gallon tank,in this instance I only do 25 per cent water changes and everything has been fine. Another problem I have is that the 120 gallon is over 50 feet away,57 to be exact, and it'll never reach the tank.

John
 
justhelping
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I believe if you just estimate how much water you are removing & measure the de-chlorinator & add it as soon as the fresh water starts flowing into the tank, that will work fine for you. I think a lot of people do it that way, especially with larger tanks.

57 feet is no problem, as the python comes in many lengths, with extensions available. I will put the link below so you can read about it. I will also put another link, in case you are interested in making your own.
 
pnctar
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justhelping said:
.... I will also put another link, in case you are interested in making your own....
That's what I did and didn't even know it was out there. Thanks for the link.
 
atmmachine816
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If you have a hard time putting the water from bucket to tank, buy a small powerhead, stick it in the bucket, attach a hose to it and it does the work for you.
 
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Isabella
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LOL Atm ... great idea! I think I'll do that with my 75 gallon tank, because I still want to mix the new water with a dechlorinator in a separate bucket, and then pour everything into my tank. A powerhead seems like a good solution But do you think there is a possibility you can break your powerhead when you use it for this purpose? Because you'll be taking water from a bucket that sits below the tank. Or it doesn't matter?
 
Eskielvr
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atmmachine said:
So you don't need to run back to your faucet to shut if off the, because I always thought you did
No, well, to turn the water on and change it from siphon to fill you do, but you can stop the water as you're filling/siphoning by using the switch on the side. You can also use it to control how fast/slow you want to siphon/fill.
 
atmmachine816
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Ahh, well if I can convince my mom to let me use the sink....which is the problem, she doesn't want fish water going down the bathroom sink.
 
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Isabella
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Well, I guess youy've gotta do what your parents tell you :-\ But you know what ... once you're 18, or once you're on your own, you will buy any tank you want, any filter you want, and any other equipment you will want I understand what it feels like!
 
atmmachine816
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Well first I got to get out of college and get my own place to live, but that's a ways off so I have to make do with what I have, though taking three buckets of water down three flights of stairs every weekend is gettting annoying. :-X
 
ewolfe315
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Well just got my Python last week and boy does it feel good not to carry buckets of water. I ordered the 75 footer online from Petsmart, got free shipping and it only took 2 days to arrive. I just add the water to the tank and just estimate how much dechlorinator to add. I LOVE PYTHON and so does my BACK.

John
 
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