Python Is A *must-have* !!!

Ferretlady
  • #1
Oh my goodness --- I don't know HOW we ever got by without these things! Lugging buckets of water - that's *history* for me!!! Many years ago, when we had multiple tanks, I remember that was always a bit of a pain, doing water changes - getting the syphon going, lugging bucket after bucket after bucket of water back & forth... and invariably, no matter how careful you were, sooner or later, water would slop out of the bucket & make a bit of a mess.

If you're new (or "new again") to fish-keeping.... get yourself a Python!!!! (or one of the identical gizmos made under other brands) I just cannot TELL you how much easier it makes things! Even if you only have one tank (like me) and it's not very big (like me, again) --- this thing is absolutely FANTASTIC!!! Yes, they are a bit costly -- but OMG, if I were starting totally from scratch again, knowing what I know now -- the Python would seriously be the **very first thing** I would buy, along with the tank itself - before I bought anything else! I will NEVER go without one now that I've used one!!!

Need to do frequent (or even daily) water changes for any reason? NO problem at all! Oh, it is such hard back-breaking work (*snark*).... hook the python to the faucet, put the other end in the tank & turn the faucet on. LOL - the most "difficult" part of all, is simply rolling the hose back up neatly when you're done! LOL! Even if you only have a small tank & only do one water change a week or less frequently - it is STILL worth it, IMO!!!

When I decided to get back into fish-keeping, I was a wee bit concerned about doing water changes, as I have moderate back problems now -- so that's one more reason I just ADORE the python! But seriously, even if I were 18 years old again, and in perfect shape - I'd STILL want to have one of these!!! LOL - sorry to babble - but IMO, it really is THAT great and is SO useful & makes water changes SOOOOOO easy!!! Seriously - do yourself a favor, save up $$ if you have to - but get yourself one of these things!!! You won't regret it!!!
 
AWheeler
  • #2
Everyone who owns one feels the same way!
 
PartiTime
  • #3
I don't own a tank over 20 gallons, but I have a Python!

Okay so I have the squeeze bulb + hose/tube....and the 25 ft system...and an extra minI size one....and an extra squeeze bulb....and some extra tubing.

I just really, really love Python!
 
Jinx13
  • #4
So you just connect it to the tap directly? How do you get the correct temperature and when do you put in the conditioner?
 
AWheeler
  • #5
Once you have done it a few times it is easy to match the temp of the tank, you have to know the right degree to turn each handle. You put the conditioner in the tank as you go to fill up the water.
 
max h
  • #6
So you just connect it to the tap directly? How do you get the correct temperature and when do you put in the conditioner?

You just try to match the tap water temperature with the tank water a close as you can. Some use a thermometer to make the temps. I do a slow fill with water changes, the tank only drops a degree or two normally just enough to get the cory's to spawn if they are ready. The conditioner like prime you just dose for the whole volume of the tank prior to refilling.
 
Jinx13
  • #7
Thank you very much and thanks for this thread op I probably wouldn't have considered it otherwise
 
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Letsfish
  • #8
Where my tanks sit is in my basement which is finished with carpet,I have never spilled a drop on the rug.
 
itsayes
  • #9
About to do my 2nd water change with my python...I'm actually looking forward to it! Incredible device!
 
max h
  • #10
Where my tanks sit is in my basement which is finished with carpet,I have never spilled a drop on the rug.

You just Jinxed yourself.
 
AngelTheGypsy
  • #11
Yep. Depending on your faucet you may have to find a specific adapter, like I did, but it screws to where the aerator comes off.

When you turn the water in it comes out of the bottom into the sink. I use a thermometer to get it exactly where I want it. At this point it is creating a vacuum so go gravel vac/remove water. When enough has been removed, simply take it out of tank.

Now dose the tank directly with conditioner for the entire tank. If you removed 25% of a 40 gallon tank, dose the tank for 40 gallons.

I also use the filler hook, and this is when I switch it over. Then change the spin knob on the bottom of he part connected to the faucet and water goes to the tank, at your desired temperature, into the tank where the conditioner takes care of it!

I bought it for my big tanks, but use it in my 5 gallon betta tanks now too!!!! If it reaches, I use it!
 
BottomDweller
  • #12
So expensive though! 15m one is £90 on amazon!
 
itsayes
  • #13
So expensive though! 15m one is £90 on amazon!
You can probably make a diy python. I'm sure there's a video or instructions somewhere on the interwebs.
 
SuperK
  • #14
You can probably make a diy python. I'm sure there's a video or instructions somewhere on the interwebs.

If King of DIY hasn't he should, Joey has some great videos.
 
Bizarro252
  • #15
If I didnt have one... there is NO way I would have more than one tank! Probably would have stuck with a fishbowl haha

And yes, you can DIY a python, easiest way would be to only buy the part that hooks to the sink (this sells separate, you could make it too.) and the rest is just off the shelf parts at home depot.
 
max h
  • #16
The part that hooks to the sink is also available anywhere that sells waterbed supplies.
 
Letsfish
  • #17
If there is a week link in the system the diverter is it.I bought a extra one just in case.
 
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Landos
  • #18
I siphon the water out of a window with a regular one while I fill a 30gal bin, then use a $15 water pump to pump it into the tank.
Takes me about 30min to do a water change on my 75 and most of it is just waiting around
 
Tiny_Tanganyikans
  • #19
I made my own out of vinyl tubing and pvc from home depot since I needed a significantly longer section. It was about 1/3rd the price of the and I built a chamber for and fertilizers. It works similar to a miracle gro attachment that way I can condition new water rather than treating the tank which is a concept I'm not keen on.
 
Lisa S
  • #20
I love mine too, but I have a question. I know it's best to rinse filter material in tank water instead of tap water. With this system, how do you capture tank water?

My sink is so shallow, I can't capture what is being siphoned (which I assume is mixed with tap anyway). Having to dip out water or use my manual siphon/gravel cleaner sort of defeats the purpose of the Python system. I'm curious how everyone else handles this.
 
Bizarro252
  • #21
I use a pitcher to scoop water into a bucket - or put tap ~the same temp into a bucket and hit it with prime, mix it up and then use that.
The water coming out of the tap when your siphon is on will be mixed with tap and untreated, don't use that
 
AllieSten
  • #22
I love mine too, but I have a question. I know it's best to rinse filter material in tank water instead of tap water. With this system, how do you capture tank water?

My sink is so shallow, I can't capture what is being siphoned (which I assume is mixed with tap anyway). Having to dip out water or use my manual siphon/gravel cleaner sort of defeats the purpose of the Python system. I'm curious how everyone else handles this.

I literally take a pitcher of water from the tank itself to sit off to the side for cleaning stuff. Sometimes I will fill it twice and put it in my 5 gallon bucket for a bigger area to wash things in. That way I know it's treated. You could just use your dechlorinator in your tap water and fill up a bucket with it. That works too.
 
AWheeler
  • #23
I turn off the tap and just let the dirty water run into the sink and rinse it off in there.
I love mine too, but I have a question. I know it's best to rinse filter material in tank water instead of tap water. With this system, how do you capture tank water?

My sink is so shallow, I can't capture what is being siphoned (which I assume is mixed with tap anyway). Having to dip out water or use my manual siphon/gravel cleaner sort of defeats the purpose of the Python system. I'm curious how everyone else handles this.
 
Bhopkins1311
  • #24
Checking temp easy and simple way... have finger over part where water comes out
You can keep checking the tank water and the sink water
Once I got a python I couldn't believe I waited so long to get it
 
PartiTime
  • #25
I love mine too, but I have a question. I know it's best to rinse filter material in tank water instead of tap water. With this system, how do you capture tank water?

My sink is so shallow, I can't capture what is being siphoned (which I assume is mixed with tap anyway). Having to dip out water or use my manual siphon/gravel cleaner sort of defeats the purpose of the Python system. I'm curious how everyone else handles this.

I don't ever need to siphon as much water as I'm changing and with nowhere NEAR the same frequency (I change water 1-2 times weekly depending on stock and which tank). I don't mess with my filters all that often, don't rinse out the media, etc. About the only thing I do is squeeze out pre-filter sponges. So I get a bowl for that. For everything else I use a manual siphon and a 5-gallon bucket. Again, it's rare for me to need to do this. Today being the exception....it's time to break down an aquascape and reset it. (planting substrate is exhausted. ) So I'll siphon 2 gallons into a bucket, pull all the plants and put them in there, siphon 3 gallons into a bucket, use the Python to pull out most of the rest of the water, catch all the fish, and finish with the Python until I can pull out the substrate and replace it. Anyway, that's how I do it. For me, it's still faster to do it that way than to siphon, pull plants, siphon, dump buckets, get fish out, and refill with buckets.
 
max h
  • #26
I love mine too, but I have a question. I know it's best to rinse filter material in tank water instead of tap water. With this system, how do you capture tank water?

My sink is so shallow, I can't capture what is being siphoned (which I assume is mixed with tap anyway). Having to dip out water or use my manual siphon/gravel cleaner sort of defeats the purpose of the Python system. I'm curious how everyone else handles this.

What you can do is put some fresh water in a bucket with your dechlorinator and rinse your media. I have to do that because of the wood canopy I have.
 
jdhef
  • #27
I just use a container to scoop some tank water into a bucket before I start siphoning.
 
Lisa S
  • #28
I just use a container to scoop some tank water into a bucket before I start siphoning.
It's just too bad there isn't a way to divert some tank water first - then it would be absolutely perfect, but still beats lugging buckets!
 
max h
  • #29
It's just too bad there isn't a way to divert some tank water first - then it would be absolutely perfect, but still beats lugging buckets!

I use the Aqueon system, but I think on the Python system once the siphon has started you can shut off a valve disconnect the long hose and reopen the valve on the hose into a bucket. the siphon action will continue.
 
Lisa S
  • #30
I use the Aqueon system, but I think on the Python system once the siphon has started you can shut off a valve disconnect the long hose and reopen the valve on the hose into a bucket. the siphon action will continue.
I wasn't aware of that, but I'll investigate next time I change water. It might be easier to just dip some out or dechloinate some water in a bucket to clean filter medium.
 
Letsfish
  • #31
I also have one of their manual siphon that I use for my 10 gallon tank it has a primer bulb at one end.If there is one weak link in the Python system it is the water removal,you waste a lot of water through the vacuum process.I`m thinking about trying a water pump for that, especially in my case I have a bathroom next to where my tanks are set up and I can run the tubing right into the shower. In your case you could siphon a couple of gallons in a bucket to rinse your media.
 

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