Puffer Problems Swimming.

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If you tried everything and he is not showing any progress, then you should unfortunately consider euthanizing him.
 
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If you tried everything and he is not showing any progress, then you should unfortunately consider euthanizing him.
I’ll check with my roommate if she has any clove oil. I don’t have any but after this experience will be getting some in case this happens again.

I even tried hand feeding him a worm soaked in medicine. He let me cup my hand gently in the water and he sat in it while I held a worm to his mouth. He wouldn’t take it though.
 
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I did a dissection just to look for worms. I didn’t find any moving. They may be dead and they may be too small to see with the naked eye. Swim bladder looked good. Mucous lining looked good. Liver looked good. And that’s about all I know how to tell. I know it was a parasite of some kind because of the white stringy poop. I treated with Fenbendazole, but it has to be ingested to work. The first day he ate, after that, no. I had switched to General cure, which is Metranidazole. The first dose of two had been in the water less than 24 hrs when he died. I think I was just too late. Here is a video:

The other seems to be doing good now. I have not seen him behaving strangely in days. He ate his treatments, but I’ll probably go ahead and finish up with the general cure because just like with antibiotics used inappropriately, parasites can become tolerant to the medication if stopped early and then it’s impossible to get rid of them.

I can’t decide if I want to get another one. If I do it would certainly be in a quarantine tank and get wormed before going in with my remaining resident puffer. I just can’t decide. I’m a little heart broken as the one that passed was the sweetest one. Amazing personality.
 

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Hi sheldon sorry hes gone but it's for the best he was suffering, I'd get another straight away for the other guy, this is what our puffer outlet recommends and what I used on my new puffers, they recommend to treat all puffers as the parasite is brought in with them from the wild, fenbendazole or this dosnt have to be ingested with food its absorbed through the gills and skin where it the ends up in the stomach so which ever you use it will work,
 
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I think I’m going to put the other guy in the 20 so I can remodel the 60. I want to build a branching thing out of foam and concrete to help with blocking the line of sight. Need an empty tank for that. Then I will get him a buddy or maybe 2. Probably in a few weeks. Then he’ll be in the 60 and I can treat the newcomer(s) in the 20 before moving them over.

I think I’m just gonna name my remaining guy “Two.”
 
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“Two” is doing the c-shape thing again tonight. . Maybe it isn’t parasites after all. I’m so upset and disturbed by this. It really makes me want to swear off puffers. With the cost of the animal, cost of shipping, and cost of medicine (as well as heartache) it almost doesn’t feel worth it anymore.
 

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“Two” is doing the c-shape thing again tonight. . Maybe it isn’t parasites after all. I’m so upset and disturbed by this. It really makes me want to swear off puffers. With the cost of the animal, cost of shipping, and cost of medicine (as well as heartache) it almost doesn’t feel worth it anymore.
It might not be your fault but the shippers or importers.
 
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It might not be your fault but the shippers or importers.
In that case do you think it would be beneficial to purchase from somewhere else? Or do you think they all come from the same place anyways?
 

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In that case do you think it would be beneficial to purchase from somewhere else? Or do you think they all come from the same place anyways?
I don't know where you got your puffers from, but it's best to read the reviews of the company. In the meantime, if you're still interested in keeping puffers, then you can search them somewhere else or ask your LFS to special order you the fish.
 
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I don't know where you got your puffers from, but it's best to read the reviews of the company. In the meantime, if you're still interested in keeping puffers, then you can search them somewhere else or ask your LFS to special order you the fish.
Where do I read reviews of the companies?
 

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Forums or even their official website/Facebook page. Another way to validate whether a company is good or not is to watch unboxing videos.
 
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Just got a message from the specialist at the place I bought them from. They have stated that it is a swim bladder issue. This makes me so ANGRY! If I had known that I could have treated the other fish!!!

Adding a few search terms in case someone else has the issue in the future.
C-shape
C shape
J-shape
J shape
Bent spine
Bent in half
Swim bladder disorder
Contorted
 
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Got a refund of store credit for the cost of the fish that died. That was $5.99. Shipping was $40 so that’s little consolation.
 

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That's not right they should fully replace that includes shipping I wouldn't let that drop. The problem existed when you had them, they are just trying to get out of shipping, do they offer guarantee in the fish
 
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