Puffer Betta. Fixing Bloated Betta

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  1. Guanchy

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    Well not a puffer betta he is just constipated lol

    But im calling him Mr. Puffer right now. I have been fasting him for 3 days and i gave him a pea which he ate half of it. and he still bloated. What would you guys recommend?

    I was reading epsom salt baths but a year ago one of my bettas died right after i did a empson salt bath so now im afraid to do it again.

    Would frozen Daphnia help? or would the fasting and the pea be enough and now i just have to wait for him to get better?

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    I’d continue with the fasting for one more round, if you have daphnia on hand definitely use that instead of peas. Much better for constipation if you have access to it.

    How did you do the bath in the past and what was it for? Did you acclimate at all?

    The next step(if fasting doesn’t improve things) will be to do an Epsom salt bath, I’d suggest acclimating him to it(short acclimation as you don’t want him to be in that high of concentrations for to to long). I’d try acclimation for 5-10 minutes and do a 5 minute bath then acclimate back.
     
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    Ill keep fasting it. Im going to the store after work to get some frozen daphnia.

    When i did it, it was for a similar situation the fish was bloated too. I just let the container floating on the betta tank so when i introduced the betta to the container the temperature was the same. Maybe i added too much epsom salt.. im not sure.
     
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    How much did you add? This time I’d suggest doing a drop acclimation so the salinity can be increased slower. Granted it should be a quick drip.
     
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    Are the scales pineconing at all? Swelling like this could be a sign of fluid build up in the body, which is why a bath can help, since it draws the fluid out.
    Also, what are the parameters and how much were you feeding him before he got bloated?
     
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    I honestly dont think is dropsy. Could it be from live black worms i was feeding him?
     
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    That fish is not constipated and it doesn't appear to have the classic dropsy (pine coned scales).That would be fluid filling up his abdominal cavity. I've got a plakat with the same issue. It poops fine, eats normal behaviors about normal too and the darn thing keeps on kicking. I honestly do not know why it happens or how to fix it. I've heard of people using a sterile needle to aspirate the pocket of fluid but I'd be too scared to poke an organ.
     
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    Maybe that was it. It left him in there too long. Again it wes a year ago so i dont even remember how much salt i added but i know i left him in the container for a few minutes. It was not just a quick drip
     
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    I don't think so. I feed mine freeze dried.
     
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    Hi
    When feeding freeze dried food you must soak it in a spoon of tank water for about 15 to 20 minutes first this is to prevent the dry food from swelling in the Bettas stomach.
     
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    so decided to do the epsom salt bath 1 table spoon in one gallon of water, left him there for about 15 minutes, then moved him into another 1 gallon container with 1/4 spoon of epsom salt for 10 minutes and then back into his tank. I acclimated him before putting him in the 1g container with salt.

    He wasnt looking too good this morning so lets see. *fingers crossed*
     
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    Goodness, that definitely does not appear to be dropsy or constipation to me, when fluid fills up the abdominal area it looks somewhat clear around that area, and that is what I am seeing.
    I would definitely do the epsom salt, it will help draw out fluids, a sick rescue that I took in months ago recovered very quickly through epsom salt baths.
    Sounds like you did it exactly how I did, let's hope this can help him out!
     
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    I rulled out dropsy but i thought it was constipation because i havent seen him poop.

    When should i repeat the bath if he doesnt get better?

    He is a rescue as well. I really dont want to lose this guy.

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    he has come a long way.
     
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    I did epsom salts every other day for my bloated betta rescue.
     
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    Ive done three epsom baths, he ate peas, daphnia i even used some kanaplex and nothing! He is getting larger and larger everyday. And this morning he sterted pineconing.

    Is this the end? Should i keep trying? I feel terrible because he seems so uncomfortable.

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    Poor thing... I’m not certain he’s going to be able to recover since he’s got dropsy now as well. I’d suggest considering euthanasia.

    If you do decide to continue treatment, you’re going to need to treat it harshly from here on out. This is how I’d suggest-
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    ooomg, i'm so sorry beautiful betta, i wonder how these things happen?? sighs
     
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