This should help answer your question:dfisherman said:I don't suppose you could use prime to keep fish safe while using TSS? It does state on prime bottle it detoxifies Ammonia and allows bio filter to consume it.
just wanted to note that pretty much all water conditioners that i know of do one or the other or both.Lucy said:This should help answer your question:
Tetra advises not to use any conditioner that detoxes/removes ammonia or removes chloramines when cycling with TSS.
when did you add the tss ? what's the amount of ammonia/nitrites you are getting ?dfisherman said:I don't suppose you could use prime to keep fish safe while using TSS? It does state on prime bottle it detoxifies Ammonia and allows bio filter to consume it.
I still think that adding water treated 48 hrs previously with Prime might be different than adding Prime directly to the tank.Do not add TSS for 24 hours after using
such a product, and do not add such a product for at least 7 days after
I understand your concern. TSS is designed to keep fish safe, but do you really trust the lives of your fish with it? The test results are not inaccurate, and I believe their 'ideal' parameters include a fresh tank with one small fish, rather than a modest to full bioload.H20girl said:I ended up adding TSS to my tank that is cycling with fish. I did this because there were going to be a few days when I wouldn't be able to do the daily water change.
I tested the water 2 days after adding the TSS. Ammonia was .25, Nitrite .25. The next day the test showed .5 -1.0 ammonia, which worried me. I added Prime to a large bucket of water and let it sit for 48 hrs. I tested the water on Thursday and the ammonia reading was 1.0, nitrite 0, nitrate 40. I decided to use the bucket water to do a 15% water change and added the rest of the TSS bottle (I bought the 75 gal size bottle for a 20 gal tank...initially put in about 2/3 since the tank had been going for 2 weeks). I figured that if it killed the TSS, I'd go back to daily water changes. I know the Q&A said to expect levels between 1 -1.5, but after seeing that test turn so green, I changed my mind and decided I wasn't ok with that.
An hour after the water change the ammonia looked between .25-.50.
Today (Saturday) the water appeared better: trace ammonia (very light green) and .25 nitrite. (I didn't get a chance to test nitrate).
Hopefully the water change helped??
Do you think it's "safe" to do what I did - water change 48 hrs after conditiong water w/ prime with the addition of more TSS?
What about without adding more TSS? It would be nice if there was a way to speed up the cycle (w/ TSS) while limiting/reducing the fishes' exposure to toxins (w/ small water changes). Curious what you think...
ETA: Ok, just reread the Q&A and this time noticed it said:
I still think that adding water treated 48 hrs previously with Prime might be different than adding Prime directly to the tank.
BTW, I'm aware that I'm terrible at following directions!
I don't understand this either, it doesn't make sense based on the info they've provided!I don't even understand why ammonia /chloramine detoxing products interfere with it to begin with.
Though there was an ammonia spike, you're getting results.dfisherman said:Wow look what I started this is great info. My history as to Shawnie Post#7. I've had several post about this tank 10 gallon with guppies. Started 4/9 has been going 44 days. Still no cycle getting 1.5 ammonia all the time. 5/19 added TSS 48 hours later Ammonia 4+ppm, 0 nitrite, 40+ nitrate. Call Tetra help line they said do 25% water change. Have done this going to test water later today.