Possible Swim Bladder Disease? (pics Included)

fishfanaTicwahoo
  • #1
HI all!

About two weeks ago noticed that he was sleeping vertically (he usually does not and I was freaking out because I moved him from a 5 gallon tank to a 20 gallon) so I fasted him for 3 days then started feeding him cooked peas (per google and other fish forum). I also did some ketoconazole to make sure he didn't have any bacterial infection. He doesn't seem to be getting better.. his belly seems bloated and I've been feeding him peas for about a week and a half... here is a picture. Please let me think what you all think is the next best step. He is not lethargic, still gets excited for food when someone comes near (but I'm only feeding him a pea a day)... is that cruel?

thank you for your time
 

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Crazycoryfishlady
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How is the pooping? Is there constipation? Are the colors weird? From what I've been told, and learned about swimbladder, it's sometimes caused by too many pellets in the diet or floating food in general, this creates more than just resting problems for the fish, after having a fish who had a swimbladder infection, he could barely swim normally and was always floating in a weird state and couldn't control it.
I started feeding a more balanced diet, between bugs, worms, vegetables and pellets, the variety seemed to help.

There is a fish food recipe that a member made that could possibly help.

Fish Food Recipe - Goopy Food

Poop sometimes lets us know about issues. I had a platy who was pooping red yet only ever ate green food, it turned out there was a bacterial infection causing pigment changes in the feces.

I generally don't like to do treatments unless I know what is going on, since sometimes treating a fish for something it doesn't have is like giving a human an unneeded antibiotic. It will eventually not work when you need it the most.

I would try fasting again for two days and watch the bloating and waste. If there is more waste than what you fed, the fish could be constipated and need more fasting to clear the system completely.
Many fish can last a week or longer without any food.

There is also the possibility of other issues here but I'm not quite sure what they would be aside from a form of infection.

Illness is hard to pinpoint with very few symptoms.

Definitely check the poop though lol
 
rainbowsprinkles
  • #3
If you just moved him your tank is probably cycling and ammonia and nitrite could be high causing poisoning. Do a water change then test the water. Pet stores will often test for free if you don’t have the tests. Prime water conditioner can detoxify things in the mean time.
 
fishfanaTicwahoo
  • Thread Starter
  • #4
How is the pooping? Is there constipation? Are the colors weird? From what I've been told, and learned about swimbladder, it's sometimes caused by too many pellets in the diet or floating food in general, this creates more than just resting problems for the fish, after having a fish who had a swimbladder infection, he could barely swim normally and was always floating in a weird state and couldn't control it.
I started feeding a more balanced diet, between bugs, worms, vegetables and pellets, the variety seemed to help.

There is a fish food recipe that a member made that could possibly help.

Fish Food Recipe - Goopy Food

Poop sometimes lets us know about issues. I had a platy who was pooping red yet only ever ate green food, it turned out there was a bacterial infection causing pigment changes in the feces.

I generally don't like to do treatments unless I know what is going on, since sometimes treating a fish for something it doesn't have is like giving a human an unneeded antibiotic. It will eventually not work when you need it the most.

I would try fasting again for two days and watch the bloating and waste. If there is more waste than what you fed, the fish could be constipated and need more fasting to clear the system completely.
Many fish can last a week or longer without any food.

There is also the possibility of other issues here but I'm not quite sure what they would be aside from a form of infection.

Illness is hard to pinpoint with very few symptoms.

Definitely check the poop though lol


I'm not sure how I would be able to tell if he has constipation but he does poop everyday. It seems like it is coated in a clear coat and floats sometimes... He's been eating green peas and he's been pooping out green. Same when he was eating fish flakes he was pooping long strings of poop but it would sometimes float to the top. I tried googling it but... not much help. Thank for the suggestion I might try fasting him again!!!
 
fishfanaTicwahoo
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
If you just moved him your tank is probably cycling and ammonia and nitrite could be high causing poisoning. Do a water change then test the water. Pet stores will often test for free if you don’t have the tests. Prime water conditioner can detoxify things in the mean time.

I made sure the tank was cycled before putting him in the new water and tested the water before moving him over! Thanks for letting me know though
 
Crazycoryfishlady
  • #6
From what I've read, long poops means there is a bit of constipation, especially if they are trailing behind the fish for a long period of time.

I'll have to see if there any specific foods you can feed him to help with the floating poop issue. Generally if it floats outside the fish, it sometimes means it floats in the fish too.
 

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