Possible oscar

  1. Jaws90 Initiate Member

    Hey there

    I currently have a 100 gallon tank containing 5 tinfoil barbs (about 3-4inches each). I been seriously thinking about adding 1-2 oscars (maybe 1 because of their size) to the tank. What are your thoughts on this? will 2 oscars overstock it? Will 1 overstock it? Filtration isnt an issue i believe, my filter does 360 gals an hour. (With oscars you need double the tank size an hour I hear, so 200)

    Anyways any help is greatly apreciated, ive done research but figured i would post first incase this is a mistake :;rfro
     
  2. AlyeskaGirl Fishlore VIP Member

    Your Barbs will get larger, so you need to factor that in. You need to think about the adult size of the fish. It's not just about the filtration but space too.

    Welcome to Fishlore!
     

  3. Jaws90 Initiate Member

    Given my aquarium setup do you think i have the room? The 1 inch per gallon says so unless im missing something obvious
     
  4. soltarianknight Fishlore VIP Member

    the 1 inch pergallon is Useless beyond compare :D

    These guys will obtain 12" easy, and possibly up to 14-16" Its a big fish. 360 on a 100gallon tank is not much. For those fish alone your looking at 1,000gph. Canister filters would probably work best with and HOB to help aerate the water, which is something they will like. Now, as for adding an oscar i think you will over go the bio load and space limits of the tank.
     

  5. Jaws90 Initiate Member

    1000 gallons an hour? Wow that must cost an arm and a leg.. My canister cost about 300 if i remember right
     
  6. AlyeskaGirl Fishlore VIP Member

    You are under filtered for that size tank. For canisters the guideline is 5x the filtration. More is better. Depending on the stocking. You've got about 4x the filtration. For an Oscar you want 8-10x filtration as they are messy and large weekly water changes.

    Jaysee is really good at filtration, maybe he will chime in shortly and if an Oscar is a good or bad idea.
     
  7. soltarianknight Fishlore VIP Member

    Yes canister filters are less so then HOB, with HOB the general rule, which i admit isnt perfect, is 10GPH to the gallon. Of course, you can have more or less depending on bioload, many perffer more. Canisters are 5x -7x i believe. I agree that Jaysee should be able to better work this one out, hes probably also got some good ideas on the stocking as well.
     

  8. Wendy Lubianetsky Well Known Member Member

    I have a 60 gallon tank with an Oscar and a Flowerhorn and 2 parrot fish. It is too small and they are moving ti a 280 this weekend. You definately do not have room for 2 Oscars. And, you will have to increase your gph. I believe that has already been addressed.

    With my Oscar and FH I do 50% water changes and vaccuum every 3 to 4 days. My filtration running at almost 1000 gallon per hour to compensate for the bio load. If you are prepared for keeping up on the maintenance I would do it. There is nothing more wonderful than my Oscar. He is more like a dog than a fish. He shows off for me, tries to get attention and begs for food. He'll even do a trick or two to try and get food from me. But you have to be committed to constant water changes, because they are very sensative to ammonia and nitrites and high nitrates. I can tell when something is wrong when his fins get ragid or a fungus appears on his pectoral fins - it is all water qualtiy related.
     
  9. soltarianknight Fishlore VIP Member

    I would also like to add that you should add atleast 1 or 2 more barbs, they like larger schools. I still dont think a 100 will do for tinfoils and a oscar.
     
  10. Jaws90 Initiate Member

    Makes sense, originally i was going to do a piranha tank but the risk of losing my arm petrified me lol (yes i realise its a misconception)
    Sounds like ill just have to keep upgrading filtering systems with time and one day ill be ready for an oscar.. 1000 gph is out of my current reach
     

  11. Aquarist Fishlore Legend Member

    Good morning,

    Filtration: One option would be to add 2 Aqua Clear 110's @ 500gph each. This would give you a total of 1360 GPH (gallons per hour) keeping your canister filter running too.
    http://www.kensfish.com/product138.html
    Currently with a special sale price of $63.56 each. A very good price!

    For such large fish that you are wanting to keep, the more filtration the better as long as the fish are not being blown around the tank by the current. The fish you have mentioned should be able to handle the current with no issues.

    Reaching the GPH needed for your aquarium may not be so far out of reach as you may think. These Aqua Clear filters do a great job and are lower priced than the canister filters. I'm currently running 6 of them on all of my tanks in addition to Wet/Dry filtration. I highly recommend the Aqua Clears. Note these are Hang On Back (HOB) and not canisters.

    I'm sure others will chime in with stocking suggestions and tips.

    Ken
     
  12. soltarianknight Fishlore VIP Member

    I agree that current should be no issues, the barbs will probably like it tbh.
     
  13. Jaws90 Initiate Member

    How does the waste from an oscar compare to a say a blood parrot or jd?
     
  14. soltarianknight Fishlore VIP Member

    Well, BP and JD are generally smaller then oscars, but BP tend to like company so say having 3-4 of them may equal a oscars bioload, Ken would know more on that.
     
  15. Aquarist Fishlore Legend Member

    Good morning,

    I would consider all 3, Oscar, Bloody Parrot, Jack Dempsey, large waste producers. I've kept them all over the years but I can't really say one produces more waste than the others.

    Ken
     
  16. Jaws90 Initiate Member

    Filtration isnt a problem for me, i can always buy more filters. Its the tank space that worries me