Possible Hole In The Head Oscar

Sprinkle
  • #41
I got a better picture of him
There is a probability that your oscar has HITH.
HITH is in all fish, if there something wrong is with water, fish will get sick.


See the link and try all methods in there. I'm not sure if this is gonna work.
 

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CMBT
  • #42
Are you sure? I’m getting a 75/100 tank for him as soon as I can. will this cure the HITH?
 

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jkkgron2
  • #43
Are you sure? I’m getting a 75/100 tank for him as soon as I can. will this cure the HITH?
It should make him feel better, IF he has HITH which it Is entirely possible he’s just fine but yes, the bigger the tank the better.
 
Dawn Michele
  • #44
Hello. It doesn't look to me that he has HITH. The bigger the tank the better!!! These guys get BIG & MESSY!!! They need lots of room & clean water to live happy & healthy lives!!! My Oscar is in a 125!!!
 
Amilia
  • #45
Hi,

I was looking at my clown loaches today and noticed a sort of discolouration / potential beginning of HITH on one of them. Just wanted to see if anyone recommends that I start treating them right away in case or if it could be something else. I have had this before with other loaches I had (1 recovered) so I'm worried and am thinking of getting in sooner rather than later.

I fed them some zucchini (try to every 2-3 weeks), recently have stocked new fish and changed lighting. Added some carbon two days ago.

Try to do water changes every 2 weeks.

Hopefully the photos are clear enough.
 

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DoubleDutch
  • #46
Doesn't look like HITH to me. Clowns aren't prone that disease as well as far as I know.

Looks more like a bacterial infection or an allergic reaction to the stuff you used.
Their skin is quite sensitive.
 

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MacZ
  • #47
Two questions:
Why zucchini? I've never seen a clown loach go for something veggie, ever.
Why the carbon?
 
Amilia
  • #48
Doesn't look like HITH to me. Clowns aren't prone that disease as well as far as I know.

Looks more like a bacterial infection or an allergic reaction to the stuff you used.
Their skin is quite sensitive.
Unfortunately my other 3 definitely did have HITH I’ve seen a few posts here and there with it it was before I used activated carbon so unsure it could be! Should I removed the carbon or maybe get some melafix?

Two questions:
Why zucchini? I've never seen a clown loach go for something veggie, ever.
Why the carbon?
They literally love the blanched zucchini - go crazy for it!! I feed them that to add extra variety to their diet. Put activated carbon in to clear the water and add extra filtration

coralbandit richiep calling on you both to have a look please - I know you are both experienced and I’d appreciate your opinions!
 
MacZ
  • #49
Ok, new to me, they eat zucchini. I'd always be vary of carbon as a filter medium. It tends to stall the cycle.

Coralbandit is gone as far as I know and left the forum about two months ago.
 
Amilia
  • #50
Ok, new to me, they eat zucchini. I'd always be vary of carbon as a filter medium. It tends to stall the cycle.

Coralbandit is gone as far as I know and left the forum about two months ago.

looks like I might need to take it out then! Oh right thanks for notifying me!
 

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A201
  • #51
As noted, Loaches aren't usually affected by HITH, but stranger things have happened. My Loaches occassionally exhibit white patches on their heads & sides. Those blemishes turned out to be simply minor abrasions caused by scraping against rocks. They are constantly chasing each other at high speed.
Its surprising more injuries haven't occured.
If you are convinced the problem is HITH, Metroplex is the most often recommended med. Medicated foods are also suggested.
You might try simply upping your water change schedule, removing the activated carbon from your filter & dosing the Melafix as a disinfectant.
Another point to consider, Loaches don't normally do well with meds.
 
Redshark1
  • #52
I've never had this with my Clown Loaches and can't think what the reason for the discolouration could be in a healthy tank.
 
Amilia
  • #54
As noted, Loaches aren't usually affected by HITH, but stranger things have happened. My Loaches occassionally exhibit white patches on their heads & sides. Those blemishes turned out to be simply minor abrasions caused by scraping against rocks. They are constantly chasing each other at high speed.
Its surprising more injuries haven't occured.
If you are convinced the problem is HITH, Metroplex is the most often recommended med. Medicated foods are also suggested.
You might try simply upping your water change schedule, removing the activated carbon from your filter & dosing the Melafix as a disinfectant.
Another point to consider, Loaches don't normally do well with meds.
Okay yes that could be the case didn’t think of that. I’ll try with the water changes etc and see if it goes thanks!
 

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Amilia
  • #55
Your photos are great but am wondering if you might have a moment to fill this out as well. Will hopefully shed a better light on what is going on with your loaches.

Fish Emergency Template | 376562 | Freshwater Fish Disease and Fish Health


Tank

What is the water volume of the tank? 215 L
How long has the tank been running? 4 years
Does it have a filter? Yes
Does it have a heater? Yes
What is the water temperature? 27.2 Celsius
What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts.) Angelfish, clown loaches, bleeding heart tetras, Congo tetras, 1 bristlenose, 1 rainbow shark, golden suckers

Maintenance
How often do you change the water? max every fortnight
How much of the water do you change? 25%
What do you use to treat your water? water conditioner - blue planet
Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water? both

*Parameters - Very Important
Did you cycle your tank before adding fish? Yes
What do you use to test the water? API test kit
What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.

Ammonia: 0.25
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate:0
pH: 7.4

Feeding
How often do you feed your fish? once a day
How much do you feed your fish?
What brand of food do you feed your fish?
Do you feed frozen or freeze-dried foods?

Illness & Symptoms
How long have you had this fish?9 months
How long ago did you first notice these symptoms? 3 days
In a few words, can you explain the symptoms? As original post
Have you started any treatment for the illness? Water changes / more mixed diet
Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase? No
How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all? Just the discolouration
 
Fisheye
  • #56
Thanks for filling out the template-below is easiest for me to respond without scrolling up and down. Sorry if it's annoying.
[/QUOTE]
Does it have a filter? Yes-original to setup or new? Which size/brand.
What is the water temperature? 27.2 Celsius-not sure everyone wants to live at that temp. Please verify.
What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts.) How many of each? Angelfish, clown loaches, bleeding heart tetras, Congo tetras, 1 bristlenose, 1 rainbow shark, golden suckers

Maintenance-25% every two weeks-correct?

*Parameters - Very Important
Did you cycle your tank before adding fish? Yes

Could your cycle have crashed-0 Nitrate is concerning. How often do you test?
Ammonia
: 0.25
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate:0
pH: 7.4

Feeding-I see below you mentioned variety. Excellent idea moving forward.

Illness & Symptoms
Have you started any treatment for the illness? Water changes / more mixed diet. I applaud you for not chucking in a bunch of meds. Such a relief!!
How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all? Just the discolouration-could be water quality issue
 
Amilia
  • #57
Thanks for filling out the template-below is easiest for me to respond without scrolling up and down. Sorry if it's annoying.
[/QUOTE]
That’s okay! I’ll go through and clarify the ones you’ve asked about again
Does it have a filter? Yes - original - included in the AquaOne 980
What is the water temperature? 27.2 Celsius-not sure everyone wants to live at that temp. Please verify. Unsure what you mean here?
What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts.) How many of each? 5 Angelfish, 4 clown loaches, 9 bleeding heart tetras, 7 Congo tetras, 1 bristlenose, 1 rainbow shark, 2 golden suckers

Maintenance-25% every two weeks-correct? Yes

*Parameters - Very Important
Did you cycle your tank before adding fish? Yes

Could your cycle have crashed-0 Nitrate is concerning. How often do you test? Not very often (I need to get into a routine) it’s been 0 for as long as I know though :/
Ammonia: 0.25
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate:0
pH: 7.4

Feeding-I see below you mentioned variety. Excellent idea moving forward.

Illness & Symptoms
Have you started any treatment for the illness? Water changes / more mixed diet. I applaud you for not chucking in a bunch of meds. Such a relief!!
How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all? Just the discolouration-could be water quality issue
 
Fisheye
  • #58
Thanks!

27.2 Celsius-ensure that all of your fish are fine at the same temp and ph as the next.

Maintenance-every week is much better.

The 0 nitrate is suspicious to me. Do you have a forest of plants in there?

Up your water changes, test some more to figure out that nitrate, feed varied diet and confirm temp and ph for all.
 
Amilia
  • #59
Thanks!

27.2 Celsius-ensure that all of your fish are fine at the same temp and ph as the next.

Maintenance-every week is much better.

The 0 nitrate is suspicious to me. Do you have a forest of plants in there?

Up your water changes, test some more to figure out that nitrate, feed varied diet and confirm temp and ph for all.

27.2 Celsius-ensure that all of your fish are fine at the same temp and ph as the next. Had a research and it seems they all can slot into the parameters both temp and pH - the bleeding heart tetras are slightly out im reading max 7 pH for them so might need to look into it

Maintenance-every week is much better. Will try fit into schedule for sure!

The 0 nitrate is suspicious to me. Do you have a forest of plants in there? Yes I do have quite a few plants!

Up your water changes, test some more to figure out that nitrate, feed varied diet and confirm temp and ph for all. I’ll do this for sure
 

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