Plecos Fin Color

Tunafish389

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I have a common Plecos that has started to develop reddish brown on the tip of his fins. He/she is dark grey with tan spots (common fish store sucker). The coloring on his fins all the way down the tip of each fin, about a a millmeter of color. He's about two inches, eats good and is active. I feed him a waffle every other day and belly full.

Is this coloring a concern? He didn't have it when purchased. Had him three months. Noticed development about after adding groupies.

Tank conditions: 65 gallon. 9 feeder gold fish that has been in tank for year and half currently at two inches. 3 groupies almost an inch had for a month. 68 to 72f cold water. Ph 7.6. Ammonia no trace. Nitrite no trace. Nitrate 40 ppm.

I will add photo when he shows his fins.
 

DoubleDutch

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Sounds natural to me (aging)
 
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Tunafish389

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Tunafish389

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A couple of pictures.. Not the best stupid flash but you can see the color on the tips.. His tail fin is the same.
 

goldface

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Weird that it's only 2"? How big was it, when you got it? Other then that, the fins appear fine to me, though the fish itself looks a bit skinny.
 

Dave125g

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The color looks fine. Also appears to be male (not sure if you knew that) he is a bit on the small side. Mabee try him on some veggies. All my plecos agree on zucchini.
 
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Tunafish389

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He's actually about three inches. I had him three months and he has grew about half an inch.

I tried zucchinnI with him and he didn't bother with it. He likes the algae waffles though. I will up feeding for that.

Here's a picture of his belly side, kinda blurry, I just can't get a good picture.20190820_170836.jpg
 

Dave125g

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Oh he's still a youngster yet. Don't worry he'll fatten up nicely.
Wow he don't like zucchini? Have you tried cucumber or anything else yet?
 
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Tunafish389

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I did cucumber not zucchini. The cucumber sat in there for a few days and I ended up removing it. I will have to try zucchini. My wafers do say with zucchinI so I think he will like some fresh slices.

Off the subject my guppy is giving birth!
 

Dave125g

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Tunafish389 said:
I did cucumber not zucchini. The cucumber sat in there for a few days and I ended up removing it. I will have to try zucchini. My wafers do say with zucchinI so I think he will like some fresh slices.

Off the subject my guppy is giving birth!
Awsome congratulations on the fry.

Only my clown pleco likes cucumber. My bn don't at all. Have you ever tried kelp wafers? All my fish love that.
 
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Tunafish389

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I haven't tried the kelp with him but remember that my previous Plecos did like them. Thanks for tip.

The guppies were not planned but took them in from an overcrowded tank. Wasn't sure how they do in the cold water tank but they seem to be ok. See at least five fry.
 

Dave125g

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Tunafish389 said:
I haven't tried the kelp with him but remember that my previous Plecos did like them. Thanks for tip.

The guppies were not planned but took them in from an overcrowded tank. Wasn't sure how they do in the cold water tank but they seem to be ok. See at least five fry.
Lol I got 2 young feeder guppies by accident once. I put them in my 40 which I only use for plants. Wouldn't you know it they turned out to be Male and female. I got hundreds now. Luckily the cichlids in the big tank eat them.

Yeah they do ok in lower temperatures. They'll breed less and grow slower but they should do fine.

Are these fancy guppies?
 
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Tunafish389

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Yeah fancy. I got at least 15 frys now that I can see!
 

Dave125g

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Tunafish389 said:
Yeah fancy. I got at least 15 frys now that I can see!
Awsome
 

DoubleDutch

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What species is it exactly?

I think it might need more protein than algae / vegs.
 

Dave125g

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DoubleDutch said:
What species is it exactly?

I think it might need more protein than algae / vegs.
Good point. Ita a common.
 

JessicaSwanlake

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Yeah, I would say give him some bloodworms. My common mostly eats zucchini/bok choy/kale but if I ever want him to come out of hiding I just put a little pile of bloodworms in front of his cave and he is out in a second. He might grow pretty fast once he starts getting more protein too!
 

chromedome52

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It's not a common, it's a Gold Spot Sailfin, Pterygoplichthys joselimaianus. Dark body, light spots (common has the reverse). The increasing orange color is normal for this species as it matures. Classified as an omnivore, it needs soft wood to chew on, and a lot of aufwuchs type algae, but they also like a bit of protein. Mine gets shrimp pellets with the Cichlids and some special green food, and he has a tree stump to chew on. At 3 inches yours is still a baby, they can get close to a foot.
 

JessicaSwanlake

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chromedome52 said:
It's not a common, it's a Gold Spot Sailfin, Pterygoplichthys joselimaianus. Dark body, light spots (common has the reverse). The increasing orange color is normal for this species as it matures. Classified as an omnivore, it needs soft wood to chew on, and a lot of aufwuchs type algae, but they also like a bit of protein. Mine gets shrimp pellets with the Cichlids and some special green food, and he has a tree stump to chew on. At 3 inches yours is still a baby, they can get close to a foot.
Just curious, how can you tell? I thought gold spot juveniles had larger spots than common juveniles (obviously the common's spots fade after a yearish). Also, is there a way to tell the sailfin vs common without the dorsal being up?
 

DoubleDutch

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chromedome52 said:
It's not a common, it's a Gold Spot Sailfin, Pterygoplichthys joselimaianus. Dark body, light spots (common has the reverse). The increasing orange color is normal for this species as it matures. Classified as an omnivore, it needs soft wood to chew on, and a lot of aufwuchs type algae, but they also like a bit of protein. Mine gets shrimp pellets with the Cichlids and some special green food, and he has a tree stump to chew on. At 3 inches yours is still a baby, they can get close to a foot.
Could it be it needs more protein to decently grow ?
 

chromedome52

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JessicaSwanlake said:
Just curious, how can you tell? I thought gold spot juveniles had larger spots than common juveniles (obviously the common's spots fade after a yearish). Also, is there a way to tell the sailfin vs common without the dorsal being up?
Actually, the most available Common these days is also a Sailfin species, Pterygoplichthys gibbiceps.

This is my little fellow when he was only about 2.5 inches, right after I got him at an auction.

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JessicaSwanlake

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chromedome52 said:
Actually, the most available Common these days is also a Sailfin species, Pterygoplichthys gibbiceps.

This is my little fellow when he was only about 2.5 inches, right after I got him at an auction.

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That's really interesting, I wasn't aware of that! Mine was sold as a sailfin but he lost most of his spots, is charcoal colored, and is already 9 inches long at about 7 months old so I am about 90% sure he isn't a sailfin. Maybe next time he's out long enough for a photo I will create an ID thread to find the species. Thanks for the info!
 

chromedome52

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Well, Gibbies can reach 18 inches, so 9 inches at 7 months is not unreasonable. However, the color fading out doesn't seem right, so I will wait for a photo of your fish.
 
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Tunafish389

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Too update Plecos is doing good. Actually grew an inch in the last month. Mine is a Pterygoplichthys joselimaianus which will grow too about 12". The Pterygoplichthys gibbiceps will out perform at 17". The 10 or more dorlas rays indicated the Pterygoplichthys family.

The Gibb is s light colored species with dark spots. I credit this to a previous post. The Jose is a dark colored species with light spots. The only reference I have found for a sail fin is a Gibb L-83 from
 
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