Please Read, Stop Global Warming!!!!!!!!!

Ok, so I agree that scientists may not necessarily be right about the "never happened before", but also, look at it this way. If you don't believe we've put holes in the ozone, isn't it a huge coincidence that we just happened to to build all of our rocket launch sites under holes in the ozone?

I thought the hole was over the antartic (or artic). We don't launch from the south pole, do we?

Theories - fancy word for guesses. Sometimes theories pan out, other times they don't but they are guesses.

Yea, and I also thought there was the one hole, not others.

 

I believe the two holes are around each pole. Like most people who don't see this as totally the result of human activity, I feel the Co2 and other contaminants which may be causing a warming trend are much more affected by natural causes like volconoes than what the scientests feel is causing it.

HOWEVER, if it is because of humans and their gas guzzeling machines, hairspray, and refrigerators, let everyone who rides an airplane, drives a car, cools or heats their house, uses a referigator or freezer, or rats their hair into a bee hive, STOP! You can't just point at someone else and say they shouldn't do what they are doing, including drilling for oil, because why should Alaskan's for example stop making money to heat our homes, just because someone else wants to continue their lifestyles without interruption.

Fish in the Frozen North

 

sounds like there may be a relation between the ozone layer and the earth's magnetic field? has that been considered? if us nasty humans are poking holes in the ozone layer, why are the holes up at the poles? there's not a lot of people living there.. even the alien population at the north pole isn't too great.

 

I feel the Co2 and other contaminants which may be causing a warming trend are much more affected by natural causes like volconoes than what the scientests feel is causing it.

That argument doesn't hold water for the simple fact that volcanoes have been here for millions of years and have never caused a warming trend at the speed of this one. Plus I am not aware of any supervolcanoes having gone off in the past few years. The new factor is us, not volcanoes. I think too many people have the mistaken impression that those of us who are concerned about global warming don't understand that warming and cooling trends happen, have happened, and will happen again. We do. But we also recognize that our activities have dramatically accellerated the current warming trend beyond anything that would happen in nature alone. The danger of this is that if things change so quickly that "nature" does not have time to gradually adjust, then massive die-offs can occur. There are plenty of other life forms on this rock that we seem to forget we are dependant on, and if they go...we go next. Now, I don't claim to have a crystal ball that tells me this is certainly going to happen. But, the consequences are so grotesque as to warrant caution, in my view.

HOWEVER, if it is because of humans and their gas guzzeling machines, hairspray, and refrigerators, let everyone who rides an airplane, drives a car, cools or heats their house, uses a referigator or freezer, or rats their hair into a bee hive, STOP! You can't just point at someone else and say they shouldn't do what they are doing, including drilling for oil, because why should Alaskan's for example stop making money to heat our homes, just because someone else wants to continue their lifestyles without interruption.

There are really only a minority of activists on the extreme end who would argue for turning everything off immediately. Of course that is unrealistic...no argument. Instead, what we need to is 1) stop foot dragging and get serious about developing new technologies and energy sources that are less poluting, and 2) in the meantime, EVERYONE take an honest look at their own contribution to the problem and make changes where they can. Some easy examples...change your lightbulbs to compact flourescents, don't leave the computer turned on all the time...only when in use, turn the air/heat down a little when you are not home, etc.

 

I see a lot of hand wringing here, but not any real solutions. Have you really taken a good look at the airplane patterns and use over the US lately, how about world wide. Do you know how many thousands of gallons of fuel it takes to fly say from NY to LA? and you are worried about turning off computers?

The other thing is when was the last time you took a look at all the active volcanoes that are errupting RIGHT now! I think this would astound you. It doesn't have to be a supervolcano to spuew huge amounts of contaminents into the atmosphere.

What I am saying is that the political uproar is all show. IF the people who feel this way want to impose restraints on everyone else, I want to see their lifestyles made a little rougher also!

Fish in the Frozen North

 

There are really only a minority of activists on the extreme end who would argue for turning everything off immediately. Of course that is unrealistic...no argument. Instead, what we need to is 1) stop foot dragging and get serious about developing new technologies and energy sources that are less poluting,

The problem is that it's not us everyday people who are foot dragging on new fuel technologies. It's oil companies that complain when they only make over 10 billion dollars in profit in a quarter. (that was 1 company, not all of them.).. These companies are each bringing in more profit than many countries entire GNP and being multi-national, it would take ALL governments standing up to them and putting a stop to the unethical and often illegal practices of the oil companies that have kept us in the 19th century as far as fuel technology goes. You and me and our neighbors can all make changes in our lives, but until the politicians care about more than lining their pockets with oil company money, we're screwed. I'd love to see a world without oil and coal pollution, a world with clean air and water. The oil companies don't want their billions a year to go away and the politicians love money, money, money.. sadly, it's the one thing they all agree on.

 

I thought the hole was over the antartic (or artic). We don't launch from the south pole, do we?

Nope, there's also one over the NASA site in Florida and one in Texas. I remember hearing that there was an issue near the Russian site when I was a kid.
These are not as huge as the ones over the pole(s?), but they're big enough to create severe sunburn problems for anybody who lives under them (or goes to a water park for a day under one)