Please Help...fish Dying

I'm stumped If the parameters are fine, and the tank is cycled, all I can think of now is just really bad luck...

 

Can you post some pics of the tank and close ups of some of the fish? Maybe somebody might see something that is being missed?

Just a thought

 

Still no symptoms, except with the ram. I watched the ram swimming in circles towards the bottom of the tank. He would then turn on his side until disturbed. He died about 30 minutes later.

This sounds like some kind of neurotoxicity such as that caused by ammonia. Diseases could also cause it but it's less likely.

The fact that fish die suddenly without signs of illness and that one sick fish apparently recovered when returned to your LFS also points towards a toxicity rather than a disease.

List everything you've put in your tank in the past 2-3 weeks other than water, food, and dechlorinator.

One possibility is a toxic plant. I read one account where the person found out one of their plants wasn't the species he thought or it became toxic when grown in water.

 

My poor betta just died I have ich in my tank and my female varatius has white cottony stuff all over her and her fins are rotting (withing two days of weird symptoms from betta this happened) my little bristlenose pleco died as well please help I just put melanin and salt in tank will it fix it

 

Any photos of it?
Tank size?
Ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels?

 

She's hiding I can't get a photo and 20 gallon divided in half

Any photos of it?
Tank size?
Ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels?

No ammonia nitrites or nitrates

 

Is the fungus in a specific area or on the whole body?

 

Is the fungus in a specific area or on the whole body?

Mostly her tail and fins

Is the fungus in a specific area or on the whole body?

 

Treating the tank with PimaFix will probably help it heal.

 

Please provide the following: photos, tank size, temperature, ammonia levels, nitrate and nitrite levels, GH, and KH.

Salt won't help her. I would personally start over with the entire tank, but you don't have to do that. If you haven't treated the tank for ich, do so now. You can increase the temperature to 80 degrees and add API Super Ick Cure after a 50-80% water change.
Move your varatius to a separate quarantine tank and treat her with General Cure, which will help with the fungus and fin rot.

 

Please provide the following: photos, tank size, temperature, ammonia levels, nitrate and nitrite levels, GH, and KH.

Salt won't help her. I would personally start over with the entire tank, but you don't have to do that. If you haven't treated the tank for ich, do so now. You can increase the temperature to 80 degrees and add API Super Ick Cure after a 50-80% water change.
Move your varatius to a separate quarantine tank and treat her with General Cure, which will help with the fungus and fin rot.

I think all the fish have everything that's the problem

I think all the fish have everything that's the problem

20 gallon 76 degrees no ammonia no notrites no nitrates everything is normal in tank

Will melafix work

 

I think all the fish have everything that's the problem

In that case, quarantine nobody and continue to follow the directions.
When was the last time you checked your parameters and what did you use?
Melafix only helps with injuries.

 

In that case, quarantine nobody and continue to follow the directions.
When was the last time you checked your parameters and what did you use?
Melafix only helps with injuries.

Peramaters?

 

Peramaters?

Ammonia, nitrates, nitrites, etc.

 

Ammonia, nitrates, nitrites, etc.

Two days ago and nothing I brought my water into store for test

 

Two days ago and nothing I brought my water into store for test

I would bring some water samples to the store again to get them checked. A lot can happen in two days.

 

I would bring some water samples to the store again to get them checked. A lot can happen in two days.

OK and I posted pic of her

All the others just have severe ich

I would bring some water samples to the store again to get them checked. A lot can happen in two days.

 

All the others just have severe ich

If it's severe ich, then I would definitely follow my first set of directions. Do a 75% water change and add Super Ick Cure to the tank. If your female platy continues to look unhealthy while the other fish are fine, then I would add General Cure to the tank after you've finished dosing it with SIC.

 

If it's severe ich, then I would definitely follow my first set of directions. Do a 75% water change and add Super Ick Cure to the tank. If your female platy continues to look unhealthy while the other fish are fine, then I would add General Cure to the tank after you've finished dosing it with SIC.

Thank you

 

bad advice here..

cotton stuff on fish is bacterial. most bacterial infections become viral when temps are increased, this is bad for the fish as the bacteria will quickly overtake the host in no time.

Ich is not cotton or fuzzy is white small flecks all over the body. temp + salt is best to cure it. but temps need to be at 86+ for at least 2 weeks to ensure all ich within different stages of the life cycle are killed off. Without pictures its very hard to diagnose. But something is telling me with such a quick rate of fish dying that it could be columnaris. in which case you need kanaplex and furan 2 to treat it. its hard one to beat as it kills fish very quickly and will deteriorate them at alarming rates.

 

Keep in mind this is a tough issue. With no outward signs of disease I usually suspect water params. There's many possible issues but ammo and nitrates are most common. PH is key to you should be close to stores ph. Fish can adjust to a range but not quickly. Without autopsying the dead fish you have to guess which can be a pain. Like Discus said Tetra Lifeguard is a common cure all you should try. Theres others probably as good but I see that in most local fish shops. Quarantining new fish is the only way to be sure. I used to make sure fish were in the store a week or two before I bought them but risked losing them. Some will save them for you. Since you mailorder maybe try the big guys, liveaquaria has been good for me. Keep in mind if its bacterial it's from the stores stock of fish. Buy elsewhere.

 

UPDATE: No new fish dead today. A couple starting to get lethargic, so probably on the doorstep sadly. I picked up some Tetra Lifeguard today and have dosed after 25% water change as instructed. Will monitor over the next few.

NitrAtes were a bit high today, but was due for a WC anyway, and they weren't that high anyway (20ppm).

Plants are definitely as advertised, I only have Staurogyne Repens and a single Amazon Sword.

As for the LFS: I will not be using them again. There have been too many red flags since this started. They are considered a reputable LFS by most, but they put a fish back in their stock that they were told was sick. I was told this week by the owner that he has one tank full of fish that have ick that he's been treating, only it's not advertised as such, and he's still selling from that tank as well. There have been a few more warning signs such as this, but those alone have made me steer clear. I will not be using them after this mess is sorted out.

 

bad advice here..

cotton stuff on fish is bacterial. most bacterial infections become viral when temps are increased, this is bad for the fish as the bacteria will quickly overtake the host in no time.

Ich is not cotton or fuzzy is white small flecks all over the body. temp + salt is best to cure it. but temps need to be at 86+ for at least 2 weeks to ensure all ich within different stages of the life cycle are killed off. Without pictures its very hard to diagnose. But something is telling me with such a quick rate of fish dying that it could be columnaris. in which case you need kanaplex and furan 2 to treat it. its hard one to beat as it kills fish very quickly and will deteriorate them at alarming rates.

I’ve already told them to use Furan-2 for the female after Super Ick Cure, as all the fish have ich and only one has a bacterial infection. Try reading everything before calling my advice bad. Thanks.

 

I'm not getting in the middle of this but I think we should clarify for the OP. Maybe it was a typo, trust me I've done it lol, but previously the advice from Adriifu was to use general cure after the super ick cure. I didn't see furan-2 mentioned until ambizro brought it up, which is what I would also recommend. Are we all on board with furan-2 (or jungle fungus clear)?

 

I'm not getting in the middle of this but I think we should clarify for the OP. Maybe it was a typo, trust me I've done it lol, but previously the advice from Adriifu was to use general cure after the super ick cure. I didn't see furan-2 mentioned until ambizro brought it up, which is what I would also recommend. Are we all on board with furan-2 (or jungle fungus clear)?

What I'm also wondering reading through this post is we never got an answer on the parameters. The op says there's no ammonia, nitrite or nitrate but that's a problem in itself. If it's truly 0 across the board then they would have an uncycled tank. There needs to be some nitrate in there.

 

I'm not getting in the middle of this but I think we should clarify for the OP. Maybe it was a typo, trust me I've done it lol, but previously the advice from Adriifu was to use general cure after the super ick cure. I didn't see furan-2 mentioned until ambizro brought it up, which is what I would also recommend. Are we all on board with furan-2 (or jungle fungus clear)?

My bad; I did mean Furan-2 when I said General Cure. I was thinking of fin rot and fungus, which is what Furan-2 cures, but instead I put General Cure, which is for parasites. You always seem to catch my mistakes, Racing

OP: I apologize for the typo. Hopefully you didn't buy General Cure, as it will not help your platy in any way. Furan-2 will help a lot. Good luck.

 

Pictures and parameters-- without that no diagnoses can be certain.

 

Pictures and parameters-- without that no diagnoses can be certain.

The OP said that there was nothing in the tank when I asked for parameters, so I'm assuming they meant that there were no nitrates, nitrites, or ammonia. They also added a picture of their platy, which appeared to have ich. Then again, the was very blurry and hard to interpret, so it would be nice to have another picture of all the fish.

 

My bad; I did mean Furan-2 when I said General Cure. I was thinking of fin rot and fungus, which is what Furan-2 cures, but instead I put General Cure, which is for parasites. You always seem to catch my mistakes, Racing

OP: I apologize for the typo. Hopefully you didn't buy General Cure, as it will not help your platy in any way. Furan-2 will help a lot. Good luck.

I'm so sorry I don't want you to feel like I'm always correcting you! Just didn't want op to be confused if we were giving her two different meds lol. Trust me I have something in my head and I'll type something totally different, happens a lot haha.

 

The picture gives no indication what it is. too blurry...

 

I'm so sorry I don't want you to feel like I'm always correcting you! Just didn't want op to be confused if we were giving her two different meds lol. Trust me I have something in my head and I'll type something totally different, happens a lot haha.

It's all good. I make a lot of mistakes when I'm tired. I'm glad you corrected me, though, so thanks

The picture gives no indication what it is. too blurry...

That's why I said it would be nice to have another. I think I remember seeing white specks on the fish from that picture, but that could just be my bad eyesight.

 

the only time I've ever had a breakout with ich was when I was a new fish keeper and didn't properly heat my aquarium. poor water parameters is what causes fish to become susceptible to ich. I treated with kordon ich attack and started over with my tank.