Please Help Dojo Loaches Upside down

EncroachingLoach

No symptoms of illes before today
Ph 7.0
My temperature has been climbing all day, i have unplugged both heaters and have done a cold water change but i am unsure of what else to do or if something else is causing it. Fed them frozen foods today, some were a bit unthawed but ive never seen a reaction like this. Have also tteated with an antibacterial in case. How do i help this stop

My dojos are upsidedown

Tank
What is the water volume of the tank? 75 gallons
How long has the tank been running? 2 weeks with fish, cycled before
Does it have a filter? A cannister filter
Does it have a heater? Yes, however i unplugged it
What is the water temperature? It is supposed to be 72 and it is 89, been climbing all day.
What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts.) 4 dojo loaches
7 khuli
4 ciclids (peacock and kribs)
3 zebra loaches
A few guppies
A rasbora
A rainbow shark
A zig zag eel
1 clown pleco, 1 bumblee plec (tiny baby) 1 bristlenose (tiny baby)
Nerite snails (7 i think)
2 bamboo shrimp
About 15 ghost shrimp

Maintenance
How often do you change the water? Once every other week
How much of the water do you change? About 20%
What do you use to treat your water? Dechlorinator, microblift Artimiss
Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water? Mostly jist the water, it is fine sand

*Parameters - Very Important
Did you cycle your tank before adding fish? Yes, of course
What do you use to test the water? Api master freshwater test kit
What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.
Ammonia: .03
Nitrite:00
Nitrate:00
pH: 7.3

Feeding
How often do you feed your fish? Twice a day
How much do you feed your fish? Maybe a bit much, will be decresing amount
What brand of food do you feed your fish? Several brands
Do you feed frozen or freeze-dried foods? Yes, beefheart, bloodworms, brine shrimp

Illness & Symptoms
How long have you had this fish? 2 years
How long ago did you first notice these symptoms? About an hour ago
In a few words, can you explain the symptoms? She is slightly bloated and upsidedown, but still moving around
Have you started any treatment for the illness? I treated with an antibacterial (Artemiss)
Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase? No
How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all? She is just a bit bloated

Explain your emergency situation in detail. 3 of my four dojos are upsidedown, or struggling to stay upright. The temperature has been rising, as it has been abnormally hot the last two days. Just did a cool water change and treated with artemiss. They seem to be improving.

They may have eaten too fast but
it has been in the 90s for the last two days (extremely unusual for june in MT) and we just had a random GIANT rain storm out of nowhere, so possibly the drastic baremetric pressure may have caused issues as well. I have also offered peas. Pleas ehelp, they are my treasured babies and i would do anything for them
 

Seasoldier

Hi, I'm a bit confused, you say the tank has been running for two weeks with fish after cycling but your water parameters suggest the tank is not cycled yet & there is also way too many fish all at once for the bacteria in the filter to cope with & you've had the dojo loach for two years? Do you have another tank the dojo's have come from? if so I'd put them back, you also need to cool the water down try running a fan over the top of it to dissipate the heat or daily water changes with cool water.
 
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EncroachingLoach

Hi, I'm a bit confused, you say the tank has been running for two weeks with fish after cycling but your water parameters suggest the tank is not cycled yet & there is also way too many fish all at once for the bacteria in the filter to cope with & you've had the dojo loach for two years? Do you have another tank the dojo's have come from? if so I'd put them back, you also need to cool the water down try running a fan over the top of it to dissipate the heat or daily water changes with cool water.
The tank has fully cycled, all of these critters came from my 55 gallon tank, which had been running for about 9 months. All the rocks and plants also came from the tank, as well as a bit of the filter medium. I have a fan on the way in the mail, and most of the fish mentioned are either very very old rescues or very young, including the 3 dojos in with my large one. This of the first major issue ive really ever had with my fish, all of whome came straight from the 55
 
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Patman0519

No symptoms of illes before today
Ph 7.0
My temperature has been climbing all day, i have unplugged both heaters and have done a cold water change but i am unsure of what else to do or if something else is causing it. Fed them frozen foods today, some were a bit unthawed but ive never seen a reaction like this. Have also tteated with an antibacterial in case. How do i help this stop

My dojos are upsidedown
How warm did the water get?
You may have shocked them going from a high temp to a low one...dojos live in colder water but putting them through a large temperature fluctuation probably did not help them.
 
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EncroachingLoach

How warm did the water get?
You may have shocked them going from a high temp to a low one...dojos live in colder water but putting them through a large temperature fluctuation probably did not help them.
Well... the cool water change only brought it down by a degree or two... but it hit 89 degrees... nor.ally their tank sits at 72 degrees. My girl didnt make it tho...
 
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Patman0519

Well... the cool water change only brought it down by a degree or two... but it hit 89 degrees... nor.ally their tank sits at 72 degrees. My girl didnt make it tho...
Even the 72 degrees is too high for loaches,60 to 68 is where they thrive,yeah the tank hitting 89 for any fish is no bueno but especially the dojos... sorry about the fishy,next time you see the temp rise like that fill a 1 gallon ziplock with ice,double it over and put that bag inside another freezer bag and clip it to the side of the tank in front of your wave maker or a power head and let the ice melt in the bag and subsequently cool down the tank.
 
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EncroachingLoach

Even the 72 degrees is too high for loaches,60 to 68 is where they thrive,yeah the tank hitting 89 for any fish is no bueno but especially the dojos... sorry about the fishy,next time you see the temp rise like that fill a 1 gallon ziplock with ice,double it over and put that bag inside another freezer bag and clip it to the side of the tank in front of your wave maker or a power head and let the ice melt in the bag and subsequently cool down the tank.
I will, thank you. Ive never had peoblems with the heat outside affecting my tanks before, and ive had fishtanks in this house for 11 years! Im super heartbroken, she was 11 inches long. 72 is the HIGHEST i allow that water to get usually but...
 
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Patman0519

I will, thank you. Ive never had peoblems with the heat outside affecting my tanks before, and ive had fishtanks in this house for 11 years! Im super heartbroken, she was 11 inches long. 72 is the HIGHEST i allow that water to get usually but...
Yeah that's odd,my tank outside has reached 86 and I'm also a tropical environment. How did the temp get that high anyway? Especially inside?
They make coolers as well which I looked into before I set up my outdoor tank but man they are pricey as all get.
 
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EncroachingLoach

Yeah that's odd,my tank outside has reached 86 and I'm also a tropical environment. How did the temp get that high anyway? Especially inside?
They make coolers as well which I looked into before I set up my outdoor tank but man they are pricey as all get.
See i dont know, theyre not hit by natural light almoat at all, and my goldfish lived there for ages and id never had the temp raise. I dont even have heaters for my loaches, at least not during our short summer. All I know os it got about 20 degrees hotter than it usually does in june, it gets hot around here in late july, then a huge storm hit out of nowhere... so maybe the heat and sudden baremetric pressure just hit her too hard? My other loaches are fine, only my biggest one was badly affected... im really devastated, she was an inch off from world record and perfectly healthy otherwise...
 
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Patman0519

See i dont know, theyre not hit by natural light almoat at all, and my goldfish lived there for ages and id never had the temp raise. I dont even have heaters for my loaches, at least not during our short summer. All I know os it got about 20 degrees hotter than it usually does in june, it gets hot around here in late july, then a huge storm hit out of nowhere... so maybe the heat and sudden baremetric pressure just hit her too hard? My other loaches are fine, only my biggest one was badly affected... im really devastated, she was an inch off from world record and perfectly healthy otherwise...
That sucks :( and very odd too boot.
 
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EncroachingLoach

That sucks :( and very odd too boot.
Im just very very sad i couldnt save my lady... her best friend and two little ones are doing just fine tho, i stabilized it fast enough...
I have a fan running over my tank and ice by the filter output now, im not losing another one of my treasured noodles
 
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Patman0519

Im just very very sad i couldnt save my lady... her best friend and two little ones are doing just fine tho, i stabilized it fast enough...
I have a fan running over my tank and ice by the filter output now, im not losing another one of my treasured noodles
All we can do is adjust to what we learn and wether the big girl died over the temp or some other factor you mad an adjustment so hopefully you dont lose anymore at this point!
 
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EncroachingLoach

All we can do is adjust to what we learn and wether the big girl died over the temp or some other factor you mad an adjustment so hopefully you dont lose anymore at this point!
Im also not feeding them any ptocessed foods anymore, just a mixed diet of frozen foods and worms. I will be adjusting the species in my tank to bring it down to a cooler temp over all.
 
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Patman0519

Im also not feeding them any ptocessed foods anymore, just a mixed diet of frozen foods and worms. I will be adjusting the species in my tank to bring it down to a cooler temp over all.
I was going to suggest a tank for them alone but I know that's difficult haha.
They make fans you can also clip on top of some lids depending on your tank.
When my outdoor tank gets hot I have blinds I pull down around my patio and I throw a white sheet over the front of the tank and do my ice trick,it brings it down gradual Cy ten degrees or so over 3 or 4 hours.
I was going to suggest a tank for them alone but I know that's difficult haha.
They make fans you can also clip on top of some lids depending on your tank.
When my outdoor tank gets hot I have blinds I pull down around my patio and I throw a white sheet over the front of the tank and do my ice trick,it brings it down gradual Cy ten degrees or so over 3 or 4 hours.
Is a bathroom a mean spot for a tank? Lol,they always seem to be the coolest rooms in a house.
 
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