please help, ADF bloated

pearlypops
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HI all, I woke this mornin to find of of my ADF's looking really bloated! his whole body is huge so are his eyes! I don't know what to do? please help me with what to do and help me to understand why this has happened, thanks
Pearl
 

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Mmbrown
  • #2
I am an amateur so take what I say with a grain of salt, but this looks like either constipation or dropsy to me. Apparently dropsy is relatively common in ADFs. I read that if you hold a flashlight behind the frog, illuminating his insides, you'll be able to tell if he's got some kind of blockage or if he's filled with fluid, the later being edema.

Since dropsy is relatively serious, here's a link about it for you to read until someone with more experience comes along:
ttp://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_dropsy

Best of luck! Hopefully he's just got a little indigestion.
 
Lucy
  • #3
I'm so sorry
I really don't have any suggesions for you.

Is this the same tank that has had problems?

Edit:
This site has some good info about ADF's and bloat.

I've never dealth with it so I can't comment on the treatments described.

However since the tank has had multiple deaths I would tend to think this isn't just an ADF problem.
Something nasty is going through your tank.
Just wish we could figure out what it was.
 
frogbreeder
  • #4
It doesn't look like an intestinal blockage, since too much of the frog's body is swollen. As already mentioned, you could try holding a flashlight against the frog, so you can see the anatomical structures inside. With a bright flashlight, you'd be able to see a stone or hard blockage, if one exists. But, as far as I can tell from the photos, your frog is suffering from "hydrops," or dropsy, a form of edema. It isn't really known what causes this disease in ADFs, but it is fairly common and some people suspect it can be caused by a steady diet of bloodworms, or tainted bloodworms. Here is a link that might better explain what is happening: https://www.rodipet.de/shop/. However, I don't suggest you try to aspirate the fluid, as this link suggests, unless you have some vet./med. training. Sadly, this condition is usually fatal. Some people have tried pedialyte baths, with varying degrees of success. I'm sorry I can't offer any real solutions, other than to try to make the frog as comfortable as possible while it either passes away or recovers. I would turn the filter off and temporarily lower the water depth to make things less stressful for it. But other than that, I'm not sure there's anything that can be done. Perhaps, adding a very small amount of aquarium salt to aid osmoregulation might help (and I do mean a very, very small amount - 1 teaspoon per 10 U.S. gallons), but it won't cure it. I'm really sorry about your frog, Pearl. Please keep us posted. - frogbreeder

Here is a another link that might be helpful: Unfortunately, since the definitive cause of this condition is unknown, we can only attempt to treat the symptoms, rather than cure the disease, itself. And, although there is a definite correlation between the feeding of bloodworms and hydrops, the precise nature of the relationship remains undetermined. Some people believe that hydrops is caused by a bacteria (or possibly a virus), which is carried by bloodworms, in some cases. Because of these risks, personally, I usually try to avoid feeding my frogs bloodworms altogether, or very sparingly at best. The only time I've ever had a problem with hydrops (sadly, I lost an entire tank of froglets), I had used the store's brand of frozen bloodworms, rather than HikarI bloodworms, which most people consider to be safer than store brands, since they are sterilized and bio-encapsulated. Also, since there appears to be a correlation between calcium deficiency and hydrops in ADFs, I occasionally feed my frogs foods that are high in calcium, such as live earthworms, cut into very small pieces. Obviously, as with all creatures, feeding a healthy, well-balanced diet is very important in the prevention of disease in ADFs. But once a frog becomes ill, it can be difficult to determine what caused the illness and how to treat it. Your frog's illness might have been caused by something in the water (as Lucy has suggested), or by something your frog ate, or by any number of other factors. It's very difficult to say for certain. What do you feed your frog? Have you fed him/her any bloodworms, and if so, what type?
 
pearlypops
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
HI guys, thanks for the reply, I really do feel like I've given up, I lost my bloated ADF and notice that another wasn't moving, he too was dead, they both seemed fine yesterday. The one that was bloated seemed to become enlarged today and the other one seemed slightly bigger but not bloated. I don't no what's going on in the tank and simply feel I never will. I became so attached to my ADF's and this has really made me think I just don't want to do this anymore, I'm watching most in my tank die and can't do nothing about it. If It was just as simple as takin all inhabitants to a fish store and closing down my tank I would but I've got fish in there which I've had for 2 years and am very attached...
I fed my ADF's frog pellets, brine shrimp and frozen bloodworm every other week. I just don't no what happening. I ain't lost any fish since turning down the temp of my tank and since having a sick dwarf gouarmI (he died) but no other fish has shown signs off illness since that, wot am I to do? I feel I no so much since starting up the hobby of fishkeeping, done so much research over the years and feel great knowing I've become so knowledgeable about how to keep fish but this has just left me feeling useless because I have no idea what's wrong and how to rectify it
Pearl
 
frogbreeder
  • #6
Pearlypops, I'm very sorry about your frogs. I wish I could say for sure what is happening, but it could be being caused by any number of things. A combination of pellets, brine shrimp, and bloodworms seems like a reasonably varied diet, so I doubt it was something your frogs ate, unless, as I mentioned, the bloodworms were tainted. Lucy might be correct, in that it does sort of sound like there might be a problem with something in the tank. I can certainly understand your frustration, but please don't give up. I wish I could be more helpful. Again, I'm really sorry about your frogs. Please hang in there. - frogbreeder
 

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