Platies Laying On Bottom With Clamped Fins???

JamieLu
  • #41
That's a really pretty tank! And I'm glad everyone here could help. Id def take Islandvic on filter media at some point for sure! Hopefully the ich will clear up soon! Wish u the best of luck and keep us posted!
 

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milankosaurus
  • #42
HI all, just purchased Seachem Stability since you guys mentioned I may not have a cycle completed so I would like to jump start it with fish in the tank. after I did 50% water change yesterday afternoon, this morning I tested water and no change (ph6.6, ammonia,nitrite and nitrate zero). I already have 6 fish for 2 weeks in the tank and these results have been exactly the same since I put the fish in first time, so I am not sure how I didn't have any ammonia,nitrite or nitrate spikes at all testing every other day. how do I jump start cycle properly with fish already in the tank with Seachem Stability? it says in directions to use 5mL for first day and then half aka 2.5mL (since I have 10 gallon tank) for next 7 days. doesn't say however if with fish or without, only that fish can be introduced anytime. I do not want to mess up so asking if anyone has experience with this.

thanks!
 

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JamieLu
  • #43
Its fine with fish in there. Id turn off the filter, dump it in there and then turn filter back on after. Its so weird u haven't had any ammo readings at all. Are u shaking the bottles for nitrate test REALLY well and following instructions to a T? U should be getting ammonia or nitrite readings if ur not cycled....are u testing before the water changes?
 
milankosaurus
  • #44
Its fine with fish in there. Id turn off the filter, dump it in there and then turn filter back on after. Its so weird u haven't had any ammo readings at all. Are u shaking the bottles for nitrate test REALLY well and following instructions to a T? U should be getting ammonia or nitrite readings if ur not cycled....are u testing before the water changes?

I agree it's weird. I did fish-less cycle for 7 days with new tank purchase. then I went to have the water tested at Petco and they used the strips to test. I was told my ammonia is one level above zero as well as nitrite was purple instead of blue and no nitrates. then they told me wait 3-4 days and then I can buy fish. so I got one fish then 3 days later I got two more and week later 3 more. every other day I have been testing with additing fish and everything was exactly the same. no change in water parameters. I am following instruction exactly to a T reading twice or three times to make sure I make no mistake. could it be that my tank actually did full cycle in one week since now I have zero ammonia, nitrates and nitrites? its pretty odd
 
JamieLu
  • #45
I agree it's weird. I did fish-less cycle for 7 days with new tank purchase. then I went to have the water tested at Petco and they used the strips to test. I was told my ammonia is one level above zero as well as nitrite was purple instead of blue and no nitrates. then they told me wait 3-4 days and then I can buy fish. so I got one fish then 3 days later I got two more and week later 3 more. every other day I have been testing with additing fish and everything was exactly the same. no change in water parameters. I am following instruction exactly to a T reading twice or three times to make sure I make no mistake. could it be that my tank actually did full cycle in one week since now I have zero ammonia, nitrates and nitrites? its pretty odd
A tank NEVER cycles in 7 days unless u have another tank that u moved media over from. When u say fishless cycle, how did u do it? And I wish someone would have told me but never trust the pet stores, they just want to sell fish or other things. Testing ur own water is the best thing and also research research research. They give out terrible advice a lot of the time either not knowing or just to up sales. I'm at a loss really...because if u are cycled u should have some hint of nitrates. But then again, u should have some ammonia or nitrite of it wasn't....maybe mattgirl could help more then me. She helps everyone with cycling issues...did u test ur tap water for everything? Ph ammo nitrites & nitrates? Please do and let us know the results! How are the fish doing today? And the ich?
 
milankosaurus
  • #46
A tank NEVER cycles in 7 days unless u have another tank that u moved media over from. When u say fishless cycle, how did u do it? And I wish someone would have told me but never trust the pet stores, they just want to sell fish or other things. Testing ur own water is the best thing and also research research research. They give out terrible advice a lot of the time either not knowing or just to up sales. I'm at a loss really...because if u are cycled u should have some hint of nitrates. But then again, u should have some ammonia or nitrite of it wasn't....maybe mattgirl could help more then me. She helps everyone with cycling issues...did u test ur tap water for everything? Ph ammo nitrites & nitrates? Please do and let us know the results! How are the fish doing today? And the ich?

I figured after researching that stores tend to care more about sales than actually helping you lol, hence why I am here on this forum.
anyways, fish-less cycle I was told at the store is to fill the tank with tap water, put plants and decorations in, treat it to de-chlorinate, have the filter on non-stop and leave lights on 12h a day for 7 days. then come back to test the water.
I will test my tap water tonight. also haven't checked on fish since I am at work but in the morning two of them were laying on the floor again and still have white salt size spots on them. I think they all have ich now, but only handful of dots. I also purchased adjustable heater so I will slowly raise temp tonight every couple of hours few degrees up, see if that helps. ich medicine says do 3 treatments (every other day 1 dose for 6 days) and should disappear but well see I guess
 

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JamieLu
  • #47
Ok, ya. That's not how a fishless cycle works but I think most of us starting off thinking or hearing something along those lines. A fishless cycle is when u dose ammonia directly to the tank til it converts to nitrites the nitrates and it usually takes about a month, sometimes more. Fish in cycles, the ammonia is produced by the fish and it goes from there. So if no ammonia is added to the tank in some way the bacteria never establish because that's their "food" source. But still, uve had them in there for 3 weeks right? U still should have some ammonia readings by now. Get back to us when u do the tap water test and hopefully ur fishies are doing ok.
 
milankosaurus
  • #48
Ok, ya. That's not how a fishless cycle works but I think most of us starting off thinking or hearing something along those lines. A fishless cycle is when u dose ammonia directly to the tank til it converts to nitrites the nitrates and it usually takes about a month, sometimes more. Fish in cycles, the ammonia is produced by the fish and it goes from there. So if no ammonia is added to the tank in some way the bacteria never establish because that's their "food" source. But still, uve had them in there for 3 weeks right? U still should have some ammonia readings by now. Get back to us when u do the tap water test and hopefully ur fishies are doing ok.

I have had the tank for 3 weeks and fish for almost 2 weeks. I was told in the store if readings r fine I can introduce 1-2 fish but to test every other day for ammonia spikes and change water if it does but nothing ever spiked and everything looked "healthy" by API liquid test kit (or so I thought since I had no spikes in anything). I only did 15% water change during those two weeks so I am at loss as well lol. I don't understand how I have no ammonia spikes when platies poop like crazy. is the filter taking care of it or what? plants messing up cycle? I did not add any products to speed up process or to kill ammonia etc..
 
Johnnybelfastboy
  • #49
HI all, just purchased Seachem Stability since you guys mentioned I may not have a cycle completed so I would like to jump start it with fish in the tank. after I did 50% water change yesterday afternoon, this morning I tested water and no change (ph6.6, ammonia,nitrite and nitrate zero). I already have 6 fish for 2 weeks in the tank and these results have been exactly the same since I put the fish in first time, so I am not sure how I didn't have any ammonia,nitrite or nitrate spikes at all testing every other day. how do I jump start cycle properly with fish already in the tank with Seachem Stability? it says in directions to use 5mL for first day and then half aka 2.5mL (since I have 10 gallon tank) for next 7 days. doesn't say however if with fish or without, only that fish can be introduced anytime. I do not want to mess up so asking if anyone has experience with this.

thanks!
It sounds as tho you will have to go thru a normal cycle...tho its strange u haven't had no spikes in your readings. Just use the seachem stability with every water change as it will help establish ur biofilter and will stop ur fish from dying from new tank syndrome... if you have had it going for 3-4 weeks hopefully u should start getting some readings soon... good luck with the fish
 
mattgirl
  • #50
mattgirl could help more then me. She helps everyone with cycling issues...did u test ur tap water for everything? Ph ammo nitrites & nitrates? Please do and let us know the results! How are the fish doing today? And the ich?
You are doing a very good job. I will read along but you have pretty much covered everything.

milankosaurus I can't overstress the need for water changes while doing a fish in cycle. 50% each day while battling ich wouldn't be too much.
 

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milankosaurus
  • #51
You are doing a very good job. I will read along but you have pretty much covered everything.

milankosaurus I can't overstress the need for water changes while doing a fish in cycle. 50% each day while battling ich wouldn't be too much.
thanks for the info. wouldn't I be removing medicine from the water if I change 50% of it every day? do I pour more medicine in after I change water?
PS: I thought if I have no spikes in ammonia,nitrites or nitrates, every day water change is not needed? not talking about while I am treating ich
 
JamieLu
  • #52
Well, if u have no ammonia and nitrites in the tank ur right, everyday water changes aren't needed...but again, u still need to do atleast 50% weekly if possible for u. That will keep the water fresh and clean which is best for the fish.
 
milankosaurus
  • #53
Well, if u have no ammonia and nitrites in the tank ur right, everyday water changes aren't needed...but again, u still need to do atleast 50% weekly if possible for u. That will keep the water fresh and clean which is best for the fish.
what about medicine? wouldn't that be removed from water as well?
 
mattgirl
  • #54
thanks for the info. wouldn't I be removing medicine from the water if I change 50% of it every day? do I pour more medicine in after I change water?
PS: I thought if I have no spikes in ammonia,nitrites or nitrates, every day water change is not needed? not talking about while I am treating ich
It seems your fish aren't feeling well. Most of the time fresh clean water is what it takes to make them feel better. When doing a fish in cycle 'specially with as many fish as you have in a 10 gallon tank it is going to take having to do water changes more often than it would a much bigger tank or one with just one of two small fish in it.

Fortunately I have never had to deal with ich so am only passing on the information I have read. It seems the ich falls off the fish and needs to be vacuumed out as it falls off to keep it from reproducing and getting back on the fish.

I would think daily vacuuming would be the best way to get the ich out of there. 50% daily may be going a bit overboard so just do enough to vacuum the whole bottom of the tank however much that ends up being.

I am a firm believer in keeping the water as fresh as possible. I really think that is why I've never had to deal with any of the many fish diseases I read about here every day.

While doing my last fish in cycle I was changing out close to half of the water every other day and every day once nitrites spiked. All fish survived. I suspect if I'd not been doing the frequent water changes my fish wouldn't have all survived the cycling process.

If you plan on treating the ick with the high heat method there may be no need for the medication. From all I have read you need to do one or the other. You don't want to do both heat and medication.

If you are going to raise the temps you want to be sure there is extra water movement in the tank. That can be accomplished with an air stone or a sponge filter hooked to an air pump.

It is possible your little Platy is laying on the bottom from lack of oxygen in the tank if your temps have been going up.

It is also possible that there was enough bacteria on the plants you added to this tank to jump start the cycling process. The bacteria on them and the plants themselves may be why you aren't getting an ammonia reading. Plants eat ammonia.
 

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Johnnybelfastboy
  • #55
what about medicine? wouldn't that be removed from water as well?
Water changes will not remove the medicine but will dilute it Depending on the size of ur water changes I would put a little dose of treatment in the tank to compensate for the amount of water you have changed.
 
milankosaurus
  • #56
It seems your fish aren't feeling well. Most of the time fresh clean water is what it takes to make them feel better. When doing a fish in cycle 'specially with as many fish as you have in a 10 gallon tank it is going to take having to do water changes more often than it would a much bigger tank or one with just one of two small fish in it.

Fortunately I have never had to deal with ich so am only passing on the information I have read. It seems the ich falls off the fish and needs to be vacuumed out as it falls off to keep it from reproducing and getting back on the fish.

I would think daily vacuuming would be the best way to get the ich out of there. 50% daily may be going a bit overboard so just do enough to vacuum the whole bottom of the tank however much that ends up being.

I am a firm believer in keeping the water as fresh as possible. I really think that is why I've never had to deal with any of the many fish diseases I read about here every day.

While doing my last fish in cycle I was changing out close to half of the water every other day and every day once nitrites spiked. All fish survived. I suspect if I'd not been doing the frequent water changes my fish wouldn't have all survived the cycling process.

If you plan on treating the ick with the high heat method there may be no need for the medication. From all I have read you need to do one or the other. You don't want to do both heat and medication.

If you are going to raise the temps you want to be sure there is extra water movement in the tank. That can be accomplished with an air stone or a sponge filter hooked to an air pump.

It is possible your little Platy is laying on the bottom from lack of oxygen in the tank if your temps have been going up.

It is also possible that there was enough bacteria on the plants you added to this tank to jump start the cycling process. The bacteria on them and the plants themselves may be why you aren't getting an ammonia reading. Plants eat ammonia.

thanks I will keep this in mind. and seems like you may be right about the plants. I did hear they help with the cycle neutralizing ammonia. I will keep treating for itch with medicine for now since I already am on dose 2 out of 3 and report back. hopefully its just the ich bothering my platies since they been doing fine until the ich appeared

so I just got home and now 3 platies were sitting on the bottom. one of them is hiding inside one of the rock formations (first platy that started this whole thread), other behind plants and third one has turned a lil bit redder around the bottom/behind gills and looks bit slower and breathing bit harder . they all have same amount of ich still.
tap water tested 7 for pH and rest all zero ppm.

should I do another 50% water change with gravel vacuum?
 
Johnnybelfastboy
  • #57
Platys sittin bottom of tank as could be feeling the effects of a non cycled tank as some fish are more susceptible to diseases than other. And I read plenty of times times that fish short of air will gasp for air at the top of the tank. R u defo sure it is ick? I would do large 50 %water change again add some primer then try 40/50 daily with the conditioner for 3-4 days. As maattagirl mentioned before n I am the same I can't stress water changes enuf...it cures a lot of things if u do it right. Fish thrive in the right water. The last 4 year I have my tank set up I have only had 3-4 problems n I totally sorted with fresh water changes n no chemicals n never had any fish die or any problems. My worst spike was nitrates which was off the scales I never used chemicals n did large water changes for 10 long days but sorted the problem.. tho I suppose with some diseases chemicals will have to b used unfortunately and yed def vacuum your substrate lightly
 
milankosaurus
  • #58
Platys sittin bottom of tank as could be feeling the effects of a non cycled tank as some fish are more susceptible to diseases than other. And I read plenty of times times that fish short of air will gasp for air at the top of the tank. R u defo sure it is ick? I would do large 50 %water change again add some primer then try 40/50 daily with the conditioner for 3-4 days. As maattagirl mentioned before n I am the same I can't stress water changes enuf...it cures a lot of things if u do it right. Fish thrive in the right water. The last 4 year I have my tank set up I have only had 3-4 problems n I totally sorted with fresh water changes n no chemicals n never had any fish die or any problems. My worst spike was nitrates which was off the scales I never used chemicals n did large water changes for 10 long days but sorted the problem.. tho I suppose with some diseases chemicals will have to b used unfortunately and yed def vacuum your substrate lightly

I just did the light vacuum and 50% water change. the most sick looking platy is not gasping for air just sitting down motionless and only comes out to feed or when he sees me. it definitely looks like ich and I see fish scratching themselves a lot. some spots are bit more hazy that just small salt size. I will add the Seachem Stability
 

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JamieLu
  • #59
Can u post a pic of them sitting there? Preferably with the white spots if possible. Also did u test ur tap water?
 
milankosaurus
  • #60
Can u post a pic of them sitting there? Preferably with the white spots if possible. Also did u test ur tap water?

now they are swimming about only one is hidden behind grass so I can't get a good pic. if I do ill post here.
yes tap water tested pH of 7, rest all zero ppm

orange one is hard to see but that's what he does all day. silver one has tiny spots I tried many pics that's the best one lol
 

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Johnnybelfastboy
  • #61
I just did the light vacuum and 50% water change. the most sick looking platy is not gasping for air just sitting down motionless and only comes out to feed or when he sees me. it definitely looks like ich and I see fish scratching themselves a lot. some spots are bit more hazy that just small salt size. I will add the Seachem Stability
As ur platy is not gasping for air and sitting on the bottom then he is most likely just feeling lethargic and the effects more than other fish and if he still comes out to feed then that's a good sign. Just keep doing what ir doing..some people freak out when they have done 1 or 2 water changes and the parameyers haven't changed. Frequent water changes and patience do work wonders. Keep us posted
 
milankosaurus
  • #62
hey guys, 4th day treating Ich= no change 2 fish laying on the bottom. one that was affected first seems to be fine swimming about all day

water parameters after treating with Seachem Stability yesterday: ph 6.6, ammonia 0.25, nitrite and nitrate zero
first time I see ammonia in my tank! will be changing 50% water again to lower the ammonia. or should I wait so I don't remove medicine?
 

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Johnnybelfastboy
  • #63
hey guys, 4th day treating Ich= no change 2 fish laying on the bottom. one that was affected first seems to be fine swimming about all day

water parameters after treating with Seachem Stability yesterday: ph 6.6, ammonia 0.25, nitrite and nitrate zero
first time I see ammonia in my tank! will be changing 50% water again to lower the ammonia. or should I wait so I don't remove medicine?
HI are u
hey guys, 4th day treating Ich= no change 2 fish laying on the bottom. one that was affected first seems to be fine swimming about all day

water parameters after treating with Seachem Stability yesterday: ph 6.6, ammonia 0.25, nitrite and nitrate zero
first time I see ammonia in my tank! will be changing 50% water again to lower the ammonia. or should I wait so I don't remove medicine?
hey guys, 4th day treating Ich= no change 2 fish laying on the bottom. one that was affected first seems to be fine swimming about all day

water parameters after treating with Seachem Stability yesterday: ph 6.6, ammonia 0.25, nitrite and nitrate zero
first time I see ammonia in my tank! will be changing 50% water again to lower the ammonia. or should I wait so I don't remove medicine?
HI I can't rem but are u still cycling ur tank? If u are then a reading on the ammonia is prob the start of ur cycling process
 
Allegra
  • #64
This is interesting to me because I have had two goldfish in a 35 gallon tank for three weeks, ammonia 0 nitrate 0 nitrate 5-10. I used bottled bacteria and a piece of sponge from a filter that had a bit over a week head start with the bottled bacteria in my other tank. I never have had a ammonia or nitrite reading and I test every day. I have only done one larger water change of %30 and a two of %10. I know for one hundred percent I am doing the tests by the letter and the apI kit works fine because I have had positive readings for ammonia and nitrite in my 5.5 gallon while it was cycling. I'm perplexed.
 
milankosaurus
  • #65
hey everyone, update:

it has been day 5 since my last update and I have been adding Seachem Stability every day (total of 5 days now). now its day 7 of medicine Ich treatment and still barely seeing any change in fish. orange platy still very lethargic sitting on bottom of tank and takes long time to get to food. others are doing ok, sometimes lay on the floor mid day. doing 50% water change day 4 now (just skipped one day cuz I was away). pH staying same 6.6, nitrite 0,nitrate 0, ammonia climbed to 0.50 ppm since yesterday ( so I keep doing water change).
I am hoping soon beneficial bacteria will be eating ammonia and converting it. I will add 2 more days of stability as instructed on the bottle. I do very light vacuuming mostly poop I see laying down on the floor and decorations. do I need to do more thorough vacuuming? should I keep doing water changes every day if I get 0.50 ammonia readings- will it affect bacteria growth in any way?
please share your thoughts

thanks
 
milankosaurus
  • #66
HI are u


HI I can't rem but are u still cycling ur tank? If u are then a reading on the ammonia is prob the start of ur cycling process

yes I am cycling, see post above
 

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Johnnybelfastboy
  • #67
yes I am cycling, see post above
I can't advise on thI itch as ive never had to treat it. U say nitrates are 0.50ppm I think as long as u keep it under that will be ok cause ur ammonia reading with no nitrite or nitrates sounds as tho its going thru a natural cycle So when u see the ammonia dropping and nitrites rising then its cycling nicely. Tho just keep eye on water parameters while it is cycling. I would say on your water parameters now I would do a 30% wc with conditioner every other day but if ur treating for ich this may be different. The bacteria that lives in ur filter n substrate is different from the bacteria in ur water so water changes will not upset ur nitrogen cycle Hopefully someone can chip in and advise u with the ich problem
Also I think ur ph6.6 is low not positive but ive had these fish in the past but can't rem havin the ph that low
 
JamieLu
  • #68
Well atleast ur gettin ammonia now! I don't think u need to do daily water changes unless ur ammonia rises to 1ppm. If u don't already have prime water conditioner u should get it, cuz it also helps keep fish safe from ammonia and nitrites so itll help get ur fish thro this. I'm wondering if the water changes are making the ich meds unaffective? Does it still look like they have ich? Did u get an adjustable heater? I forgot what u keep ur temp at but a bit higher of a temp will help the ich and the cycling.
 
milankosaurus
  • #69
Well atleast ur gettin ammonia now! I don't think u need to do daily water changes unless ur ammonia rises to 1ppm. If u don't already have prime water conditioner u should get it, cuz it also helps keep fish safe from ammonia and nitrites so itll help get ur fish thro this. I'm wondering if the water changes are making the ich meds unaffective? Does it still look like they have ich? Did u get an adjustable heater? I forgot what u keep ur temp at but a bit higher of a temp will help the ich and the cycling.

The Seachem Prime is on the way I ordered it yesterday. Yes they still have Ich maybe bit reduced but not completely gone. Ive read it takes at leazt two weeks so I'm hoping water change shouldn't be removing medicine but free floating ich bacteria. I got the heater but didnt want to use without bubbler so once that arrives I will try treating ich with higher temp
 
milankosaurus
  • #70
update:

its been a week now with ammonia being .5-1.0 ppm with every other day 50% water change but still not going down to zero.
good news! ich is gone and fish are back to normal.took two weeks until no trace of ich.
few of my plans turned brown so I threw them out (read dying plants contribute to ammonia). I guess I needed to start fertilizing them, so I bought Seachem fertilizer tablet and burrowed it into substrate.
getting some brownish spots on the glass now, I guess that's algae?

since now it has been a week of constant .5ppm ammonia I am hoping I will have beneficial bacteria converting it soon. I used Seachem Stability for a week as instructed but still no nitrates or nitrtits being produced. wonder how long that will take and if 6 platies are producing too much ammonia in 10 gallon tank..
 

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JamieLu
  • #71
I was just thinking bout u and ur fishies the other day! I'm so happy to hear the ich is gone and ur cycle is progressing! It can take along time for nitrites and then nitrates to appear. The nitrite stage takes the longest usually but ull get there. I used tetra safe start in one of my tanks and it caused me to skip the nitrites all together. I think bottled bacteria is a hit or miss but lots of people have had success with tetra safe start. Keep up the good work and I hope ur cycling goes smoothly! Dont forget do not change ur filter media, only rinse with tank water!
 
milankosaurus
  • #72
I was just thinking bout u and ur fishies the other day! I'm so happy to hear the ich is gone and ur cycle is progressing! It can take along time for nitrites and then nitrates to appear. The nitrite stage takes the longest usually but ull get there. I used tetra safe start in one of my tanks and it caused me to skip the nitrites all together. I think bottled bacteria is a hit or miss but lots of people have had success with tetra safe start. Keep up the good work and I hope ur cycling goes smoothly! Dont forget do not change ur filter media, only rinse with tank water!
thanks! I have not changed the filter and rinsed it only tank water as advised. platies seems to hardy fish so I am hoping they will survive the whole cycle lol. thanks for all the help! will update when I see progress in the cycle
 
JamieLu
  • #73
thanks! I have not changed the filter and rinsed it only tank water as advised. platies seems to hardy fish so I am hoping they will survive the whole cycle lol. thanks for all the help! will update when I see progress in the cycle
I'm sure theyll b fine, as long as theyre pretty healthy, I cycled with platies and mollies and as long as u make sure ammonia and nitrites together don't exceed 1ppm. Yes, keep us updated
 
milankosaurus
  • #74
hI all, two weeks cycling now and still ammonia of 0.5ppm and no nitrites or nitrates unfortunately. stable ph of 6.6. Yesterday I added two nerite snails as I have read they are excellent algae eaters (I have brown algae now on the glass and some substrate), need male & female to breed and the babies need brackish water to survive. my platies don't seem to mind them at all. originally I wanted bristlenose pleco, otto or catfish but they are too big for my 10 gallon tank. as far as shrimps go I have read they do much better in established tank which I don't have yet. NYC water is rather soft so I may have to add some calcium so their shells stay healthy. anyone have any experience with nerite snails?
 

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JamieLu
  • #75
I have lots of snails, and I have 1 nerite right now. Theyre great cleaners, tho I don't know how well they do in a cycling tank. I know pond snails do fairly well. I have hard water so I haven't had to supplement my nerite but I used to for my mysterys. U can try feeding it some high calcium greens (kale, spinach) or zucchini. It might take him awhile to get to it tho!
 
milankosaurus
  • #76
update!

today I purchased 20 gallon tank and transferred everything I had in 10 gallon to it along with 5 platies (I returned one platy cuz it was super bully) and 2 nerite snails and 30% of water from old tank. I made another forum topic here and people said I should be ok since I still had no cycle started in 10 gallon tank. this time I will do tetra safe start and increase pH to at least 7 since its been a month and I have not even started first stage of cycle. tested water 4 hours after trasnfering to new tank and pH is still 6.6 after 75% water change and ammo 0.25ppm.

on other great news, my gf allowed me to keep a 10 gallon tank!!! I found room for it so I will be doing a school fish tank maybe 7-9 small schooling fish that don't grow over an inch. will be doing fish-less cycle this time
 
JamieLu
  • #77
Awesome! I wouldnt worry much about ur ph being 6.6 as long as it doesn't get below 6 I think ur cycle will b ok, it might take a little longer but its not good for them to have a changing ph. Just try and b patient I know it feels like cycling takes forever but ull get there! Glad everything is going good and u got another tank! Yay!
 
milankosaurus
  • #78
Awesome! I wouldnt worry much about ur ph being 6.6 as long as it doesn't get below 6 I think ur cycle will b ok, it might take a little longer but its not good for them to have a changing ph. Just try and b patient I know it feels like cycling takes forever but ull get there! Glad everything is going good and u got another tank! Yay!
I think I crashed my cycle but I am not sure (since I never had any in first place lol). I added about 30% of old tank water form 10 gallon to new 20g, used same substrate, decorations (besides mopanI wood) and replanted the tank with more plants and new rocks. ammonia is back to 0ppm and pH is still same 6.6. I also added blue dwarf gourami and one more platy (couldn't resist lol). I am waiting for tetra safe start plus to come in mail and will start the cycle with it once I start getting traces of ammonia again. I hope I can jump start the cycle and it won't take over a month without any nitrites..
 

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JamieLu
  • #79
Did u move ur old filter media over to the new tank? And u did have a cycle going because ammonia was showing up before. As long as u didnt get rid of the old filter u should still be on the right track. Just keep checking ammonia, it might take a minute to register since its a bigger tank and u pretty much did a huge water change.
 
milankosaurus
  • #80
Did u move ur old filter media over to the new tank? And u did have a cycle going because ammonia was showing up before. As long as u didnt get rid of the old filter u should still be on the right track. Just keep checking ammonia, it might take a minute to register since its a bigger tank and u pretty much did a huge water change.
yes along with everything form old tank but still no luck
 

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