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Welocme to fish lore!

I think amanos should work with hiding spots. The cave seems like a great one! The betta may be aggresive to them so put a few to test then more if it seems good. Hope this helps!
 

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Yeah i think you should be good its also good how heavily planted you tank is

As I said I would try a few "test shrimp" first.

Hope this helps!
 

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I am surprised that this wasn't noticed.
30 liters is only eight gallons, and neons are not temperature compatible with bettas, neons prefer lower temperatures in the 70s.

I would suggest keeping only the betta and some amanos.
 
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I keep my temp at a steady 24c and everyone seems happy. Apart from temp is there other reasons i couldnt keep them together
 

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Potato head said:
I keep my temp at a steady 24c and everyone seems happy. Apart from temp is there other reasons i couldnt keep them together
I strongly advise you to rehome the neons, they are too active for an eight gallon tank.
You also shouldn't keep bettas at 75F (24c)
 
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Thanks I will try. Would those neons be OK in a ten gallon

Also if I take the neons out, do you know of any bottom feeders that will work
 

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Thanks I will try. Would those neons be OK in a ten gallon

Also if I take the neons out, do you know of any bottom feeders that will work
They would be able to live in the 10 gallon for a short time, then need a 20 very soon.
I think shrimp or snails are your best bet for a tank that size.
 

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Fanatic said:
I am surprised that this wasn't noticed.
30 liters is only eight gallons, and neons are not temperature compatible with bettas, neons prefer lower temperatures in the 70s.

I would suggest keeping only the betta and some amanos.
Actually, Betta´s and Neon´s ideal temps overlap at 78ºF. Betta´s temp range is 78-80, Neon´s 72-78. I would also say a bogger tank for the neons. Best bet would be to upgrade to 15-20 gallon to keep a school of Neons, along with the Betta and some Amano.

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Is there any bottom feeder fish that would work?
Shrimp are bottom feeders. Snails too. Those are a great clean up crew right there.
 

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King o´ Angelfish said:
Actually, Betta´s and Neon´s ideal temps overlap at 78ºF. Betta´s temp range is 78-80, Neon´s 72-78. I would also say a bogger tank for the neons. Best bet would be to upgrade to 15-20 gallon to keep a school of Neons, along with the Betta and some Amano.


Shrimp are bottom feeders. Snails too. Those are a great clean up crew right there.
No, I personally don't recommend anyone to house neons and bettas together.
It's not right that you should be putting neons at their highest temperature when they obviously thrive at lower temperatures.

They also nip long finned fish, not a good idea.
 

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No, I personally don't recommend anyone to house neons and bettas together.
It's not right that you should be putting neons at their highest temperature when they obviously thrive at lower temperatures.

They also nip long finned fish, not a good idea.
The temps I have listed ARE temps they thrive at. Not temps they survive at.

As for the nipping, some say yes, some say no. In some cases it works. If in this person´s case it works and there is no fin nipping, the temp should not be the problem holding him back from comboing the two fish. The only thing he would need is a bigger tank.

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What snail could I put in that eats algae and has a v. small bioload. I was thinking a zebra nerite snail?
Yes Nerites are great cleaners. One of the best i know!
 

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King o´ Angelfish said:
The temps I have listed ARE temps they thrive at. Not temps they survive at.

As for the nipping, some say yes, some say no. In some cases it works. If in this person´s case it works and there is no fin nipping, the temp should not be the problem holding him back from comboing the two fish. The only thing he would need is a bigger tank.
I don’t want to be rude at all, but you aren’t understanding what I mean.

Neon Tetras have a temperature range from 69F - 79F. You cannot put a fish at the very HIGHEST of its tolerance. Keeping a fish at the highest that it could possibly stand will speed up its metabolism and shorten its life.

Bettas should be at 80, which is slightly out of the neon tetra’s range. They also nip the fins of bettas, which can lead to huge problems. So it does restrict someone from keeping neons with bettas.
 

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As per seriouslyfish:
Betta: 22 – 30 °C (71.6 – 86 °F)
Neon tetra: 21 – 28 °C (69.8 – 82.4 °F)

As per fishbase:
Betta: 24 – 30 °C (75.2 – 86 °F)
Neon tetra: 20 – 26 °C (68 – 78.8 °F)

Based on these data, OP's temp of 24 °C (75.2 °F) "should" be ok for both. But as @Fanatic stated, the issue will be the fin nipping of the neons and potential aggressivenes of the betta.
 

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Tsin21 said:
As per seriouslyfish:
Betta: 22 – 30 °C (71.6 – 86 °F)
Neon tetra: 21 – 28 °C (69.8 – 82.4 °F)

As per fishbase:
Betta: 24 – 30 °C (75.2 – 86 °F)
Neon tetra: 20 – 26 °C (68 – 78.8 °F)

Based on these data, OP's temp of 24 °C (75.2 °F) "should" be ok for both. But as @Fanatic stated, the issue will be the fin nipping of the neons and potential aggressivenes of the betta.
Awesome!
 
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