Planted Goldfish Tank Build

I am setting up my first tank and going to use this to chart what things I want to get for it, and also to receive feedback. Right now I want the following:
40-55 gallon tank
Fluval Aquasky
Carib sea Eco substrate capped with black sand
Freshwater master kit
Fluval M series heater
Aquaclear 110 or Tidal 110
Siphon
Bucket
Java fern
Anubias
Duckweed
Smooth stones
Small driftwood
2-4 Oranda goldfish
Ramshorn Snails
This is what I want right now but as I research this will defiantly expand

 

Goldfish don’t go well with plants. They uproot them and eat them.
I wouldn’t waste the money on eco compleat. Just use the sand plants will grow the same.

 

Goldfish don’t go well with plants. They uproot them and eat them.
I wouldn’t waste the money on eco compleat. Just use the sand plants will grow the same.

Yeah I know but I read plants like Java fern and Anubias are tougher to eat for goldfish because of their taste. Would I need to add fertilizer or root tabs if I just add sand?

 

For those 2 no root tabs. Both of those are attached to something out of the substrate. Their roots need to be out of the substrate. Liquid ferts will keep them healthy. But still not sure goldfish won’t eat them.

 

For those 2 no root tabs. Both of those are attached to something out of the substrate. Their roots need to be out of the substrate. Liquid ferts will keep them healthy. But still not sure goldfish won’t eat them.

Okay thanks, but if the goldfish eat them at least they are eating their vegetables!

 

Tougher plants like java fern are good, but jungle val and duckweed are two good options as well. My goldfish left my java moss, java fern, and amazon sword alone for the most part. You’re looking for plants that grow super fast or are super sturdy. It’s definitely possible

 

They will uproot lots, best to plant the tank and establish it very well first. Plants like swords, crypts, vals, sag and other larger rooted plant will work well along with anubies / moss / java fern. Plants with delicate leaf structures will be stripped by the goldys (cabomba, myrio etc.).

No tabs needed, just need to supply the plants with a good all in one fert like Thrive, or build your own with dry ferts.

Skip the Eco-comp if you haven't bought it already, go with a denser substrate like sand (you'll be planting a lot from the fish uprooting, so you might as well get the easiest substrate to plant into )

 

Great advice from Chanyi! Only 5hing I will recommend is to use the thrive c regular thrive needs to be used in a well planted and developed tank otherwise it add way to much nitrate and tends to give algae the upper hand. Thrive c is like thrive lite .

 

Would red root floaters work too, or would it become a salad?

 

Would red root floaters work too, or would it become a salad?

They will be on the menu, depends what the goldy want's to eat that day.

 

If you want duckweed with goldfish, just note that goldfish will chow down on it like crazy.

 

If you want duckweed with goldfish, just note that goldfish will chow down on it like crazy.

That's why I want it. It would be asthetically pleasing and the goldfish would eat it getting the veggies they need. In theory it should also reproduce fast enough so the goldfish won't eat it all.

 

I’m running co2 as well as using Ada Amazonia light as my substrate. The 247 would be the same price as a fluval 3.0. I know you can adjust the intensity the fluval 3.0 so I might just get that. Do you know if you can adjust the light forward and back because the spec is quit long and one more thing I Purchased some Eleocharis aciclarus mini in 1 2 grow cups is that dwarf hair grass. Online I’ve seen no it’s not or yes it is. It looks like dwarf hair grass to me . I know there another kind which is dwarf spike weed which I didn’t want.

That's why I want it. It would be asthetically pleasing and the goldfish would eat it getting the veggies they need. In theory it should also reproduce fast enough so the goldfish won't eat it all.

Gotcha. Believe me duck weed multiplies by the minute! I took a whole tank down once because I couldn't get rid of it lol

 

Question: Are Pom Pom goldfish the same as Orandas and would they have the same requirements?