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Indian almond leaves, or if you'd like to go ghetto, a whole lot of oak leaves. Make sure they are safe(no pesticides) and put them in. They may make the water tea colored. That is perfectly safe.
 

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Why are you trying to lower your pH? It's fine for most all fish in the hobby. Just wondering It can be done, but it's harder and usually not necessary.
 
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Why are you trying to lower your pH? It's fine for most all fish in the hobby. Just wondering It can be done, but it's harder and usually not necessary.
The fish I would like when I looked them up they mostly all said a ph of 6.5 to 7.5

The fish I would like when I looked them up they mostly all said a ph of 6.5 to 7.5
Also I don't think my plants like the ph that high
 
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What fish are they? They'll likely be fine in your high pH.

What kind of plants? All my tanks are 8.2 and I have no issue growing plants (or keeping soft water, low pH fish).
 

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Should all be fine in your pH.

What numbers were you planning on stocking? It sounds like you may have a few stocking issues.
 

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Not necessarily too much, depending on tank size, but the numbers of each will cause you and your fish problems.

What size tank is this? We can suggest numbers for each species based on tank size.
 

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You shouldn't lover the numbers. Otos, cories, tetras, and white clouds should be in groups of 6+; keeping them in smaller groups can stress them out, and you shouldn't do it. Male dwarf gouramis should not be kept together, especially in a tank this small - they'll kill each other.

What about this?
6x Otos
8x White clouds
1x DG
8x False julii cories (one of the smaller cory species - others can get too big for this tank size)
Ghost shrimp
 
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You shouldn't lover the numbers. Otos, cories, tetras, and white clouds should be in groups of 6+; keeping them in smaller groups can stress them out, and you shouldn't do it. Male dwarf gouramis should not be kept together, especially in a tank this small - they'll kill each other.

What about this?
6x Otos
8x White clouds
1x DG
8x False julii cories (one of the smaller cory species - others can get too big for this tank size)
Ghost shrimp
That seems like a lot of ottos should I wait for them until my tank is full of plants and algea?

Will white clouds eat the shrimp or can I get them at the same time?

I know the cory cats will eat the shrimp so I was going to get them after they breed the first time.

Will gourmis eat shrimp as well
 
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That seems like a lot of ottos should I wait for them until my tank is full of plants and algea?
Otos should not be required to live off algae. You should feed them veggies and herbivore wafers as well, so you don't need to fill your tank with algae. However, they do require a cycled tank to thrive, so you'd want to wait to add them until after your tank is cycled.

Will white clouds eat the shrimp or can I get them at the same time?
The white clouds will not eat ghost shrimp.

I know the cory cats will eat the shrimp so I was going to get them after they breed the first time.
The cory cats will not eat ghost shrimp either.

Ghost shrimp are difficult to breed.

Will gourmis eat shrimp as well
The dwarf gourami will likely not be able to eat an adult ghost shrimp, but it may eat juveniles if you buy them young and small.
 
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