Peacock Gudgeon [issue]

dechlorinator
  • #1
I could use some suggestions, but before I dive into this know a few things.

First, I did not knowingly buy 2 males and 1 female gudgeon - my LFS insisted I was buying three females and in their defense all three fish had and still have the black band on their analfins. Even the male that is presently sitting on eggs is giving our rules the finger! When I brought them home they all looked enough alike in head shape to further defend the LFS --- it's obvious now by head alone, that 2 are male.

Second, I know that my lone female is stressed; with the presence of fin damage and her general behavior, I know I need to get her moved (or one of the males). She does not show signs of lethargy, but does spend a bit of time hiding on the bottom under my crypt. lucens. She eats, and does not show any signs of illness - she makes an appearance at the glass when I'm there checking on things.

Third, perhaps it's a good thing that they only found one "adequate" spawning site and the bigger male has laid claim to it. This doesn't stop the other male from chasing the female and I assume he nips sometimes (or she's damaged fins on something in the tank). Sadly, I cannot remove this "site" without really mucking up the tank -- seems my Malaysian driftwood had a wide enough split that they called it a cave and -- given that when I put the wood in the tank I buried a good portion into the substrate --- err. This also means I cannot pull eggs from the spawn - I'm rooting for the little ones.

Fourth, her fin damage is mostly to the pectoral fins -- a bit ragged on the edges and a little "whitish-ness" to them. I've been treating with melafix and pimafix for the last (almost 14 days). The other day I noticed she was missing a piece of her leading dorsal fin --- clearly nipped. So, it is becoming super critical that I find a retreat --- I really don't want to loose any of the gudgeons.

Problem-
While I have a couple fully cycled aquariums neither are larger than 6 gallons and one is home to a male Betta Splendens. This leaves the Edge, which is home to 2 Nerite Snails, 2 large cherry shrimp (frankly I'm not convinced either of these are Neocaridina (but they are red)), and 6 wild green neon tetras.

Options -
1. Move 1 male or the female into another tank (see problem above) . . . . I worry that putting her in the 6 gallon means a serious over-stock situation . . . [the wild green neons are smaller kin to neon tetras, about a half-inch fully grown].

2. Obtain another pair of females and add to the tank, so as to seriously reduce stress on the lone female and give her time to heal.

3. I have a 5.5 gallon tank that I could have setup for her in a few days (first I need to sterilize it as I had been using it for a plant quarantine and found Hydrazoans in it) --- I was glad I quarantined those plants! I am worried that a new *uncycled* tank would be bad for her (or one of the males)

Finally-
I would like serious compassionate suggestions. I am totally smitten by this species and I do not want to bring any more harm to the fish than has already happened. It's really too bad that my LFS couldn't tell the difference -- I'm not blaming them. Male gudgeons are supposed to have a red band on their analfin . . . mine do not. The attached shows all three --- the closest and blurred fish in the female.
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chromedome52
  • #2
Most of the time, males lose the black stripe when they become sexually mature. Odd for them to start breeding before changing color. Mine always had a yellow border on the analfin, not red, but they definitely lost the black.

The picture isn't much use, as the one in the back is head-on and I can't even see the analfin or the head shape. The lower has a female head shape in that photo, but I think the angle is bad to say that for certain.

I would remove the one that is injured, a 6 gallon tank should be all right for a couple of weeks. I really doubt that she would clash significantly with a Betta. It depends on how ornery your Betta is. Otherwise I'd be getting that other tank sterilized, and wouldn't worry about it not being cycled. Just do water changes every couple of days and it shouldn't be a concern with just one small fish.
 
dechlorinator
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
Thanks for the suggestions. Ive tried to attach a clip of the sitting male, but no video allowed. I have tried to get better pictures but these guys are nearly always on the go. All I really have are video clips of the gudgeons -- grr.

My Betta started out okay with other tank mates, but he started getting aggressive after a ghost Shrimp began to pester him at feeding time. After that Betta killed one of my Nerites and left only one of 6 shrimp alive. I admit, watching Ao kill a shrimp was an impressive display of aggression.

I will do the setup this weekend ... I think I'll do a bare tank setup for now - maybe she'll heal and by then I can pickup a few more pink ladies to make life calmer.
 
chromedome52
  • #4
If you put your videos on YouTube, you can link them into the post. Strange, I could have sworn others have put videos directly into the forum before. Perhaps it's the format?
 
dechlorinator
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
My video is shot directly from my iphone, my guess would be same as yours - format.
Thanks a bunch for the suggestions Greatly Appreciated!
 

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