Oxygen Plants For Goldfish

Anthony DiMezza
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need some suggestions for a plant that will help with the oxygen in my 10 gallon goldfish tank
 
Rtessy
  • #2
HI there, goldfish are know for eating plants, some do some don't, but java ferns, java moss, and anubias are often said to be safe. Mine hates her veggies, so she's safe with any and all plants, and I highly recommend anacharis. It grows so fast it can take some nibbling.
That being said, the minimum tank size for goldfish is 20gallons, and another ten for each successive gallon. That's only for fancies though, single tails need more.
Again, that being said, most don't even get ten gallons so, hey, as long as you know about the nitrogen cycle your goldfish will get better care than most
 
Anthony DiMezza
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  • #3
HI there, goldfish are know for eating plants, some do some don't, but java ferns, java moss, and anubias are often said to be safe. Mine hates her veggies, so she's safe with any and all plants, and I highly recommend anacharis. It grows so fast it can take some nibbling.
That being said, the minimum tank size for goldfish is 20gallons, and another ten for each successive gallon. That's only for fancies though, single tails need more.
Again, that being said, most don't even get ten gallons so, hey, as long as you know about the nitrogen cycle your goldfish will get better care than most



thanks and yeah I'm currently cycling a 20 gallon tank for them but until that is cycled my goldfish are eating bubbles and breaching the surface so they obviously aren't getting enough oxygen so I wanted to get them something to help them out until my 20 gallon is cycled. I was also looking at 's, how do you feel about those? and I also just ordered a java fern
 
Rtessy
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Are you sure there's no ammonia? Do you have any surface flow? Plants won't help much at night if you don't have any surface flow because they end up taking in oxygen instead. Personally I haven't tried hornwort but I've heard it's messy, but it could work
Edit: there are three main reasons that goldfish will gasp at the surface in order of most likely to occur.
1. Ammonia poisoning: the ammonia harms the gills and doesn't let the fish absorb as much oxygen
2. Oxygen deprivation: no oxygen means breathing is hard
3. This doesn't occur often, but sometimes goldfish that are fed flakes for too long try to "scavenge" for food at the surface and accidentally gulp air. Long term this can contribute to swim bladder disorder
 
Anthony DiMezza
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  • #5
Are you sure there's no ammonia? Do you have any surface flow? Plants won't help much at night if you don't have any surface flow because they end up taking in oxygen instead. Personally I haven't tried hornwort but I've heard it's messy, but it could work
Edit: there are three main reasons that goldfish will gasp at the surface in order of most likely to occur.
1. Ammonia poisoning: the ammonia harms the gills and doesn't let the fish absorb as much oxygen
2. Oxygen deprivation: no oxygen means breathing is hard
3. This doesn't occur often, but sometimes goldfish that are fed flakes for too long try to "scavenge" for food at the surface and accidentally gulp air. Long term this can contribute to swim bladder disorder

I may have too much ammonia but I don't really have much surface flow just the water pouring out of my filter into the tank
 
Galathiel
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How many and what type of goldfish do you have? 20 gallons is really only sufficient for one fancy goldfish. Depending on how many you have, it's more than likely ammonia issues in your 10 gallon. You may have to do large daily water changes (using Prime) on it until the fish can be moved.
 
Rtessy
  • #7
Yeah, I'm going to have to agree, it's probably ammonia poisoning. Do you have any way of testing the exact amount? If you don't, I'd go ahead and do a 50% water change right now, because for mine the filter flow is sufficient, and mine is in a 10 gallon QT, so I'd look at ammonia.
 
Anthony DiMezza
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  • #8
yeah I have an ammonia test kit which does say I have too much ammonia I was just hoping it would cycle sooner. I don't have fancy goldfish I have 2 regular long fin goldfish
 
Galathiel
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If you could post a picture of your fish, it would help. Single tailed goldfish can grow up to a foot and really need around 100-125 gallons for two of them. Two "fancy" goldfish need around 30-40 gallons.
 
Anthony DiMezza
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sure ill take a picture and post it either tonight or tomorrow. I'm currently at work and don't have a picture of them lol
 
75g Discus Tank
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Also, what's the temp?
 
Anthony DiMezza
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  • #12
but I was also thinking the ammonia reading might be a false reading cause the male goldfish is chasing the female and trying to mate and I heard that the water in the tank has to be really good for that to happen but obviously I could be wrong cause as you can probably tell I'm new at this but I really like it and wanna get good at keeping my aquarium safe so I can maybe get other fish down the road.

Also, what's the temp?
temp stays between 69-72

so what can I do to increase surface flow? cause ill probably do that and get a plant
 
Rtessy
  • #13
It's likely the reading is true, goldfish aren't that senstive and they'll try to mate in pretty much any water conditions. Go ahead and do a 50% today and tomorrow, and likely for a few more days. What's the exact ammonia reading? It should be at or under 0.25 during a fish in cycle, and should be 0 at all other times.
 
Anthony DiMezza
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  • #14
It's likely the reading is true, goldfish aren't that senstive and they'll try to mate in pretty much any water conditions. Go ahead and do a 50% today and tomorrow, and likely for a few more days. What's the exact ammonia reading? It should be at or under 0.25 during a fish in cycle, and should be 0 at all other times.

my ammonia reading is about 1.0 and I did a water change a few days ago but it didnt go down but I guess I have to do a few water changes once a day until it does down?
 
Rtessy
  • #15
Yes, that's the best way to do it. Once you get it down you'll probably still have to do a 30% every other day, possibly more, possibly less depending on the levels. I hope it goes well for you
 
75g Discus Tank
  • #16
Did you dechlorinate the water?
 
Goldiemom
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Oh goodness. First, I am surprised your goldies are attempting to mate in a 10G tank. I would not spend a lot on trying to keep them in a tank either. Been there and done that. I had to move my comets to a 125G pond after less than 6 months. I moved them from a 10, to a 29, to a 55, and finally to the pond. They just don't work in a tank. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I am trying to keep you from making the same mistakes and wasting the same money that I did. Find them a pond. If you like goldfish (kudos to you because so do I), buy a couple of fancy goldfish and put them in a 29G or larger, larger is better. By the way, the only plants that I have found to work with goldfish are amazon swords, anubias, java fern and hornwort. I hated hornwort at first but now I love it for goldies. It helps suck up the nitrates too. Mine ate Anacharis like salad. All I would have were stalks sticking up with no growth on them. lol
 
Anthony DiMezza
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  • #18
Did you dechlorinate the water?

yeah I did everything to make sure the water was okay for them. I even tested the ammonia the first day I got them and it read zero

Oh goodness. First, I am surprised your goldies are attempting to mate in a 10G tank. I would not spend a lot on trying to keep them in a tank either. Been there and done that. I had to move my comets to a 125G pond after less than 6 months. I moved them from a 10, to a 29, to a 55, and finally to the pond. They just don't work in a tank. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I am trying to keep you from making the same mistakes and wasting the same money that I did. Find them a pond. If you like goldfish (kudos to you because so do I), buy a couple of fancy goldfish and put them in a 29G or larger, larger is better. By the way, the only plants that I have found to work with goldfish are amazon swords, anubias, java fern and hornwort. I hated hornwort at first but now I love it for goldies. It helps suck up the nitrates too. Mine ate Anacharis like salad. All I would have were stalks sticking up with no growth on them. lol

thanks, I'm new as you can tell and was obviously lied too by the pet store cause they said a 10 gallon would be fine lol but thank you, I'm going try and move them to a 20 gallon soon and hopefully that helps
 
75g Discus Tank
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yeah I did everything to make sure the water was okay for them. I even tested the ammonia the first day I got them and it read zero
It was all zero when you got them because there’s wasn’t a source of ammonia. You have some ammonia problems so keep up the WCs.

Do you have the pics?
 
Anthony DiMezza
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It was all zero when you got them because there’s wasn’t a source of ammonia. You have some ammonia problems so keep up the WCs.

Do you have the pics?

Igenore the heater it’s not in there anymore
 
Goldiemom
  • #21
An air stone would help supply more oxygen.
 
Galathiel
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Those look to be commons (did you get them from the feeder tank?). They can get quite large (up to 12 inches in length) and will need quite a large aquarium (100-125 gallons … but really they are best suited to a pond).
 
Rtessy
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Yeah, OP was told yesterday...
Anyway, I like that tank set up, I think it looks very nice. It's a shame that they can't stay in it.... If you can find a nice home for them we can help you restock it.
Keep up those water changes and keep that ammonia down, you'll get through this. Good luck!
 
Anthony DiMezza
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  • #24
Yeah, OP was told yesterday...
Anyway, I like that tank set up, I think it looks very nice. It's a shame that they can't stay in it.... If you can find a nice home for them we can help you restock it.
Keep up those water changes and keep that ammonia down, you'll get through this. Good luck!

yeah I'm trying to cycle a new 20 gallon tank (I know I need bigger but it would be temporary till I can afford a 100-125 gallon tank) for them or I may give them to a pet shop before they die cause I just can't afford a large tank like that right now. what kind of suggestions do you have for a 10 gallon? if my goldies die/go to a pet store I was thinking of getting a blue cray fish for the 20 gallon and I was thinking maybe some red cherry shrimp for the 10? but I would also like some freshwater fish ideas for the 10
 
Rtessy
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I totally understand not having room/money for a 125, those things are expensive. Even a used one is several hundred dollars, then you have to get filters that are several more hundred dollars and so on. I'm always wary of brining fish to pet stores, there's only one store near me that's an hour away that I would trust even a little. You're best bet is trying to find someone with a pond, IMO. You can try posting an ad with a small rehoming fee just to make sure they'll be taken care of and not used as feeders. Although, I did see a 125 in my area going for $150, still a bunch but possibly more manageable. Of course, space is a problem, and try imagining doing a 50% water change on that without a python... yikes. As for stocking the 10, there's a sticky under the stocking forum here, I think you go aquarium forum -> freshwater -> fish and invertebrates -> stocking, and it will be one of the first ones. Lots of options there.
 
Anthony DiMezza
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thanks everyone appreciate the help if you know anyone with a pond or large aquarium and wants some goldies let me know
 
Rtessy
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Oh I totally forgot to mention: if you read 50 posts/replies you can list the goldfish here on the BSTF (buy, sell, trade, free) ( I may have messed up the letter order....) section and it's much more likely they'll go to a good home
 
Anthony DiMezza
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Oh I totally forgot to mention: if you read 50 posts/replies you can list the goldfish here on the BSTF (buy, sell, trade, free) ( I may have messed up the letter order....) section and it's much more likely they'll go to a good home

thank you! just one question, what's BSTF lol new on here as you can probably tell

edit: totally didnt see that you said what BSTF was in the parentheses lol
 
JLeeM
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thank you! just one question, what's BSTF lol new on here as you can probably tell
BSTF is the Buy, Sell, Trade, Free section of the forum.
 
Anthony DiMezza
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  • #30
BSTF is the Buy, Sell, Trade, Free section of the forum.
thank you
 
75g Discus Tank
  • #31
Get posting!

Also, where do you live? I have a 40,000 gallon pond...
 
Anthony DiMezza
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  • #32
Get posting!

Also, where do you live? I have a 40,000 gallon pond...

I live on long island and also I can't post it yet I haven't met the requirements on here to do that :/
 
75g Discus Tank
  • #33
I live on long island and also I can't post it yet I haven't met the requirements on here to do that :/

I won’t be able to get it then.

What I meant by get posting was to post until you get to 50 posts. Good luck!
 

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