Our Platys

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Our platy tank has 2 blue mickey mouse (Ariel & Minnie), a sunset fire mickey mouse (Belle) and a pregnant gold twinbar (Daisy) who's given us 26 fry that we've found so far:
 

Gunnie

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Very pretty and healthy looking fish!
 

smillermom

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I have never seen blue mickey mouse platys. Very nice!!
 
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smillermom said:
I have never seen blue mickey mouse platys. Very nice!!
I love the blues.. they're a little more timid than the other 2, but I think that's because they're smaller.

Gunnie said:
Very pretty and healthy looking fish!
LOL.. they are stomachs with fins, but we love the little girls.. they're funny.. anytime ANYONE goes near the tank, they swarm to them.. not exactly picky in who they get food from.
 

susitna-flower

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Lovely fish, have you had Platys long? I just got my first the other day, and was told by the LFS that they were Sunset Fire, but they look different than yours. Mine have black fins and tails and snout, their bodies are orange around the edges with yellow main color, and black speckles! Any idea? I would post a picture, but don't have a camera.
I agree the blue mikey mouse are very cool.

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susitna-flower said:
Lovely fish, have you had Platys long? I just got my first the other day, and was told by the LFS that they were Sunset Fire, but they look different than yours. Mine have black fins and tails and snout, their bodies are orange around the edges with yellow main color, and black speckles! Any idea? I would post a picture, but don't have a camera.
I agree the blue mikey mouse are very cool.

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Thanks. We got the Platys in early January to be tank mates to our 1st Betta, Super Mario. He got along with them, but we decided to put him in his own tank because he'd be happier. We didn't know Daisy was pregnant until one morning when I saw something swim against the current & that led to an interesting morning trying to save the remaining fry and find a place for them. They're great fish - next to Bettas, my favorite fish.. they're little characters and will gladly suck up to anyone who they think might feed them. Daisy's due for her 3rd batch of babies this week.. hopefully tom. or we'll be gone on a trip before she's done with this batch.

How many do you have? All male, all female or mixed? Because of the black tail fin, it sounds like you have a wag and an variety that i've not run across before. Sounds like a pretty variety too.. probably cross-bred from other varieties, sounds like a Gold Twinbar might be in the mix. There are a HUGE number of Platy types out there as they mate without ANY encouragement at all, in fact it's hard to stop them.
 

chipster55

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Great lookin' fish...Great pictures...What is the secret to the clear pictures??
 
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chipster55 said:
Great lookin' fish...Great pictures...What is the secret to the clear pictures??
Our old Olympus C-4000 Zoom (4.0 megapixels). It still does the job well & always has been a solid camera. I tend to shoot from a slight angle to avoid the flash flare and color correct in photoshop. And the tank stays pretty clean, especially after adding the cory cats.
 

Bonochick

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Very pretty pictures! Your fish are cuties. ;D
 
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susitna-flower said:
Lovely fish, have you had Platys long? I just got my first the other day, and was told by the LFS that they were Sunset Fire, but they look different than yours. Mine have black fins and tails and snout, their bodies are orange around the edges with yellow main color, and black speckles! Any idea? I would post a picture, but don't have a camera.
I agree the blue mikey mouse are very cool.

Fish in the Frozen North. 8)
After more research, I think that I stand corrected.. I believe you do indeed have a Sunset Fire Wagtail Platy.. the Sunset Fire can have a range of red/orange/yellow.
 

susitna-flower

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Thanks, and the female is getting fatter! I want to get them transferred to my 10 gal., to have a successful birth. I've had fish now for several years, but this is the first time for a livebearer in the tank. I know, that is what lots of folks start with, I'm backward about most things! But it is still exciting.

Fish in the Frozen North 8)

After more research, I think that I stand corrected.. I believe you do indeed have a Sunset Fire Wagtail Platy.. the Sunset Fire can have a range of red/orange/yellow.
I found a picture! It isn't named, but I think you are right. It fits the Red Wagtail, except it has the yellow like one in the picture by aqualand pets plus, several frames down from top, on this link. Colorful tropical fish pictures, Platy, Xiphophorus maculatus Thanks for your help.

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susitna-flower said:
Thanks, and the female is getting fatter! I want to get them transferred to my 10 gal., to have a successful birth. I've had fish now for several years, but this is the first time for a livebearer in the tank. I know, that is what lots of folks start with, I'm backward about most things! But it is still exciting.
Fish in the Frozen North 8)
Our little Daisy surprised us with her first batch of fry 34 days after we got her and we found a total of 8 fry.. the rest probably got eaten by the filter & other platy since we weren't expecting them. For her 2nd batch, what we did was convert the 10 gallon platy tank from gravel to those flat marbles you find in the craft dept.. you have to keep up on cleaning it, since food & poo slide down to the tank bottom but it gives the fry a lot of ability to hide from the adults until we find them. If you want to avoid the extra tank cleaning work, stick with gravel though. The upside to the flat marbles is no gravel dust to worry about.

We also planted a whole bunch of fake plants real close together in a calm area (the side away from the filter) of the tank for the fry to hide in. For the filter, we cut the netting off of a fish net & wrapped it tight around the intake with a sterilized (or at least cleaned) rubber band. Make sure the netting doesn't have any gaps/bunches the tiny fry could swim into & get sucked into the filter. The best way to do it, is to turn the filter off and take the intake tube off & out of the tank. That makes it easier to put the netting on right.

You'll know your platy is getting closer when you can see the little black dots in her stomach. She'll square off back around her analfin when it's getting to be near time.

We had a little 1.5 gal portable tank with a submersible heater, air stone and a sponge filter for the fry but they've become numerous enough for us to get a 10-gal tank ready just for them when batch #3 comes along around the 29th of this month. We did the same thing with the netting & the filter in the baby tank that we did in the adult tank. We left the bottom of the fry tank bare and just have a couple little grass like plants & a little cave in their tank.

For the fry, you'll need fry food if you can get it at the store. If not, what we do is put flakes in a sandwich bag and using a rolling pin to crush them into powder. Then we feed them a pinch in the morning & evening.

She'll drop fry every few weeks or so (25 days is avg) after the 1st batch.

Hope this helps & ask us any questions you have.
 

susitna-flower

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Very helpful! I better get ready.......

Fish in the Frozen North 8)
 
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susitna-flower said:
Very helpful! I better get ready.......

Fish in the Frozen North 8)
Oh, forgot to mention that she'll probably have them at night - at least Daisy likes to, so each morning we do a baby check to see if we see any fry anywhere in the tank. If we find some, then we take out all the decoration and put the other fish in a big bowl while we search for fry. When we had gravel, we just would carefully go through the gravel from one side to the other a few times, moving it around to see if any fry would dart out. Now that we have marbles, we take the marbles out a handful at a time into a bucket making sure we haven't grabbed any by accident - they're so fast we've not accidentally grabbed any. We actually take out all the marbles and then we'll still find fry hiding in the debris on the bottom.. They are SO good at hiding. As long as we've got everything out, we'll clean up any debris (like old food or poop) after being sure no fry are still in the tank, then we put everything back in the opposite order we took everything out.

The fun part is that after the day we first find fry, we just automatically do that for the next 3-4 days as Platy can drop fry over a period like that.

I know I typed a lot & it seems like a ton of work.. but I wanted to cover all the details we've learned thru trial & error I could so you'll get all the fry saved that you can.. and it is a bit of work, but they're super adorable swimming around & doing platy stuff. Sadly, they don't all make it.. we've lost 7 of 26 found platys to sicknesses and 6 to me doing stupid mistakes. as far as disease goes. mostly swim bladder problems gets them so every so often I'll take a half of a cooked pea and try to crush it in the water so that it gets all powdery (try it in a bowl of water & you'll see what I mean) to help them out. As they get older, they'll like to nibble on the larger pieces that fall. Just clean up the peas & food at the bottom as often as you can, especially the pea.

You'll love watching them and should end up with a bunch of platy to find homes for.
 

Goldfishcare

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What type of airstoe are you using. Because in the picture it looks like you airstone is in some kid of shap because the stream of bubbles are very wide.


Yazan,
 
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Goldfishcare said:
What type of airstoe are you using. Because in the picture it looks like you airstone is in some kid of shap because the stream of bubbles are very wide.
Yazan,
It's about 4" long & looks like this one at the DFS site:
 

kalika

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Wow! Your platy's are so beautiful! I have a soft spot for them myself. Lots of personality tucked into a hardy yet bottomless pit. Very colorful too. I have never seen blue ones be so pretty. Here in MN all I have seen are ones that are blueish but kind of drab. Almost a grey color. If I see any like yours I will buy them right away!
 
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Kalika said:
Wow! Your platy's are so beautiful! I have a soft spot for them myself. Lots of personality tucked into a hardy yet bottomless pit. Very colorful too. I have never seen blue ones be so pretty. Here in MN all I have seen are ones that are blueish but kind of drab. Almost a grey color. If I see any like yours I will buy them right away!
Thanks, we love the little girls. Our blues were more grey-ish when we first got them, but we feed them color pellets for their evening meal each day and it's helped bring out their color. You're right about the bottomless pit.. we call them our "stomachs with fins" - they have NEVER seen food they won't eat - except for minced carrot.. lol.. go figure that one.
 

Goldfishcare

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HI ARE YOUR PLANTS REAL OR PLASTIC. IF YOU DO WANT TO LIST HOW YOU SET UP YOUR TANK I WILL BE PLEASED TO KNOW.


YAZAN,
 
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Goldfishcare said:
HI ARE YOUR PLANTS REAL OR PLASTIC. IF YOU DO WANT TO LIST HOW YOU SET UP YOUR TANK I WILL BE PLEASED TO KNOW.
YAZAN,
They're plastic plants.. I had a dozen of them packed in that area so it was a good hiding place for the fry. We set up 2 10 gallon tanks for having fry - in this thread (Reply #13 & Reply #15 pretty much tell how we set them up.) If you have any other questions about our platy tanks, please let us know. Are you wanting to have platy fry?
 

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FLBettaCouple said:
Goldfishcare said:
HI ARE YOUR PLANTS REAL OR PLASTIC. IF YOU DO WANT TO LIST HOW YOU SET UP YOUR TANK I WILL BE PLEASED TO KNOW.
YAZAN,
They're plastic plants.. I had a dozen of them packed in that area so it was a good hiding place for the fry.  We set up 2 10 gallon tanks for having fry - in this thread (Reply #13 & Reply #15 pretty much tell how we set them up.)  If you have any other questions about our platy tanks, please let us know.  Are you wanting to have platy fry?
No I'm not , I'm just asking.
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Yazan,
 

Stradius011

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Nice platies! I'm planning to get blue mickey mouse platies too.
 
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Stradius011 said:
Nice platies! I'm planning to get blue mickey mouse platies too.
They're one of my favorite platy types.. a little more timid than some types but a lot of fun and beautiful to watch.. and you can tell who's who by the mickey mouse pattern since they have such variety in the black spots. We feed ours color pellets to help bring out their color.
 

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Afternoon FLBettaCouple I had to go to two LFS yesterday in search of a birthing box to put the platy female as she gets close. I found one that looks like it might help. It has air tube going in, a slot in the bottom for fry to escape, and a fair sized area for the female to remain. Hopefully will catch her in time. That is really the only question I have in what to do. You can see her tummy getting darker, but she isn't really fat yet, and you cannot see individual 'spots' that are darker, just an all over darker, fatter belly.

One good thing the lady at the LFS said she would gladly take back the Chinease Algae Eater. I told it was that or the BIG 'E', as I just can't abide a fish that is mean in the community tank. It has been taking up my 10 gal, and that one will be great for the platy fry to grow out. This was at the store I love to go to. They however are always really low on supplies, so I went another 50 miles into Anchorage, to a Petco, where their fish department is SO sad. ALL the tanks had ich! >
They did however have that breeding tank, so it was worth the drive. They also had a tank of mixed platys that were
labled, and several like mine that they called, Sunset Fire Wagtail Platys.

Fish in the not so frozen north! +45 F today & SUN 8)
 

lisa987

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Cool! I love Mickey Mouse platies because they're cute, colorful, and remind me of Disney World! Disney World was a frequent family vacation spot when I was younger, so in a weird way my Mickey Mouse platy makes me a little sentimental...
 
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susitna-flower said:
Afternoon FLBettaCouple I had to go to two LFS yesterday in search of a birthing box to put the platy female as she gets close. I found one that looks like it might help. It has air tube going in, a slot in the bottom for fry to escape, and a fair sized area for the female to remain. Hopefully will catch her in time. That is really the only question I have in what to do. You can see her tummy getting darker, but she isn't really fat yet, and you cannot see individual 'spots' that are darker, just an all over darker, fatter belly.
Oh.. I've seen that box at Petco. I know a lot of people use them, but honestly, I'd not recommend using it although it is the nicest one I saw there. When we tried to put Daisy in a 1/2g rubbermaid container setup like a little tank, even that stressed her out so much that she wouldn't drop her fry and after a few days we put her back in the tank where she had them that night. That's why we setup the 'forest' & covered the intake with netting & all. Sometimes, dropping the fry can kill the Platy or cause her to abort her fry so we go with the least stress possible. Also, I've read on here of unhappy platy owners who used a breeder box & still had the fry get eaten.

But Platys do have different temperments and Daisy just happens to be one that gets real upset at being confined.. your Platy may be different in temperment so you have to make the best call for your girl there.
 

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Thanks for the heads up. I will watch her closely, and if she seems stressed at all, will just let her out in the 10 gal. I do have a sponge over the intake for the filter, so from that standpoint, the fry should be safe, I just worry about MOM eating them. :'(

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susitna-flower said:
Thanks for the heads up. I will watch her closely, and if she seems stressed at all, will just let her out in the 10 gal. I do have a sponge over the intake for the filter, so from that standpoint, the fry should be safe, I just worry about MOM eating them. :'(

Fish in the Frozen North. 8)
The Platy momma is supposed to have a hormone release that makes her not hungry after dropping fry.. she's also supposed to need to rest for up to a day or 2 afterwards. Daisy didn't read that and pretty much just went on with her daily routine of swimming around looking for food after dropping her fry. LOL
 

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I got the platys put over into my cycled 10 gal tank. Besides the big rock that is in there I included some java fern floating, and could put more in if it would help provide some protection in case the fry are in with mom and dad before I know what is going on.

The hated Chinease algae eater is over in a 50 gal tank I am cycling. I guess it is good to have one sturdy fish you just don't care if it lives or dies! I put filter material out of an established tank, and he seems fine.

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susitna-flower said:
I got the platys put over into my cycled 10 gal tank. Besides the big rock that is in there I included some java fern floating, and could put more in if it would help provide some protection in case the fry are in with mom and dad before I know what is going on.
Fish in the Frozen North 8)
All the hiding spots you can put in are good. Then you'll have the fun of finding them all after the other fish are out if they are in with the adults.
 

wolfman21

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Those are pretty cool looking!
 

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We had a nice Easter morning surprise, I checked on Mrs. Platy, and saw one fry swimming around. I quickly removed mom and pop back to the large tank, as we were going out to enjoy Easter with family. As soon as I got home I checked and there were 10 babies. I figured it was better to chance loosing some in the big tank rather than leaving the parents in the 10 gal to eat the fry while we were gone! So now I will try to raise these babies. It is very hard to keep the temp up over night when the electricity is off, I know this will play a large factor in survival, so will make every effort. Maybe I can find some blanket to put over the tank. Also thanks for the idea of crushed peas. Thank you for all your help and incouragement.

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Congrats on your new platy fry. Looks like you'll be getting them every 24-25 days (give or take) until mrs. platy runs out of fuel. with a male in there, you can basically expect a pretty steady supply of fry for most or all of her lifespan.. that's a big reason for a separate 10 gallon for them.. you could end up with a 100 or more fry & adolescents of different ages from her. Once they're about an inch, I think most pet stores will take them and they can have a reasonable chance in a tank with older platys and you don't want the males & females together when they get to breeding age.

A blanket over the tank could help with keeping heat in.. If it doesn't raise the heat too much, you might even try a quick tumble in the dryer for the blanket. Just be sure the air bubbles are going good - although they need electricity too.. you have to turn yours off at night there? If so, you might need to leave an opening in the blanket for air to get into the tank.
 

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Good morning, up at 4am to check on the fry. The blanket did help keep the heat in somewhat. By the time I turned the generator off last night the water temp was up to about 72. It only dropped by 2degrees in the 5 hours I had it off. I do have air going in the tank, and a filter running, so think I'll leave the blanket on until the temp comes up a bit. I'll try for slowly up to 82, then as long as the generator is running it should stay warm till nightfall.
I have a whole case of those chemical hand warmers they use in shipping fish. I'll use a couple under the blanket tomorrow night, see if that helps keep the heat up.

We live on a homestead, which is about 3 1/2 miles from the end of the electric lines. Unlike most of the country our state doesn't have any rural electrification programs, so there really isn't going to be electricity run down here. This poses all sorts of problems. The fact that we all like our creature comforts really digs into the pocket book. I like to use this computer, have my fish tanks, and keep the lights on as much, especially in the winter, as I want.......So we either run our big
15 KW generator when we are using water, or our little Honda 2KW which is enough for several outlets. The big one costs $35 a day to run, the little one $7-8.

Thanks for your help and support. I will keep an eye out in 24 more days!

Fish in the Frozen North. 8) +38 this morning, should reach 50 today, we are in 'breakup' now, which means the snow is going fast. The temperatures have only been warm like this for a week, and already the snow is receding from around the trees, and melted to 1/3 of what it was. We should have leaves out by the first week of May.
 
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I see.. I'll try to keep your power needs in mind when talking about the fish. I don't know if it's an option, but if you can get a 5 gallon Hex tank (like the one we got at walmart for $29.99), it's an acrylic tank and they hold heat in better than glass tanks. You might also be able to find tank lights that run warmer to kill 2 birds with one stone & get light & heat at the same time. Maybe in the long run, these would help you save power on a tank for the fry while keeping it warm? You could also put the 5 gallon hex where it would have a light or 2 on it (in the warmest room) to further increase it's heat without using power you weren't already using. Anything to squeeze in an extra degree or 2 of heat without using more resources than you currently do.
 

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I know it must really seem out of this world to consider a home running in todays world without steady electricity. When I first got tropical fish, I tried staying with species that did well with cooler temps. That lasted as long it took to decide that by having lots of rocks, gravel, and just an overall warm home (72 + in winter), that it really would be possible to keep regular tropicals without stressing them. That was in the 55 gal. A 10gal is a whole different game!
The other issue is, I like to keep the tanks within easy reach of the kitchen sink, for water changes.
This next weekend I am traveling to Fairbanks, a city 250 miles north, and getting a used 125 gal. tank. Once I get the occupants of the original 55 moved I could even go back to relegating the 10 gal to quarantine tank, and keep all the platys in the 55, which holds heat much better. This will all take time, and for now the blanket will do. I keep the electricity on about 16 hours a day. This also places extra stress on the bigger tanks, due to the filters not running 24 h/d, making those water changes even more important.

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125g? now i'm jealous! > yea, you have to do more work to keep your tanks running good but you love your fish so it's worth it. Maybe when you're in fairbanks, if it's in the budget you could see about the 5 gallon for the fry until they're big enough to go into the 125g since you'd have room for them.. although you might want to find homes for either the males or females to keep from having inbred fry in the future.. or put one sex in the 125g and the other in the 55g, including Mr. & Mrs. Platy so that they don't make more pregnancies once this one is done. They'd probably need a couple buddies of the same gender if you seperated them.
 

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Well now after 2 hours the temp is up to 74. Moving in the right direction, and not too fast.

The lady I am getting the 125 gal tank from started off asking $1,000 and she has now agreed to $750, but I still have to get a new filter. It has an oak cabinet, hood and lights for a reef set up. She had a sump, but it started leaking. Between those expenses and driving 500 miles round trip, I think there won't be much in the budget for another tank. However, I have already thought about what you said about separating the young. Also, while I am up there will stop by the LFS to see if they have any more similar platys. I would like to get another female, to replace the one that died. Believe me I know all about geometric reproduction. We live on a farm! (well used to be a farm till we got smart). It can be expensive to feed all those animals, fish are much better!

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susitna-flower said:
Well now after 2 hours the temp is up to 74. Moving in the right direction, and not too fast.

The lady I am getting the 125 gal tank from started off asking $1,000 and she has now agreed to $750, but I still have to get a new filter. It has an oak cabinet, hood and lights for a reef set up. She had a sump, but it started leaking. Between those expenses and driving 500 miles round trip, I think there won't be much in the budget for another tank. However, I have already thought about what you said about separating the young. Also, while I am up there will stop by the LFS to see if they have any more similar platys. I would like to get another female, to replace the one that died. Believe me I know all about geometric reproduction. We live on a farm! (well used to be a farm till we got smart). It can be expensive to feed all those animals, fish are much better!

Fish in the Frozen North 8)
That's going to be a real nice setup & I can see how it'd drain the budget. I'd suggest a tank divider as an alternative way to separate the fry from the other fish & give them a bare bottom, but the fry might get thru and certainly the powder food they'd be getting would.. and for a tank that size, I think a divider would cost more than the $30 5 gallon hex tank. :-\
 

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