Oranda Goldfish in 20 gallon long?

Princethepurplebetta
  • #1
HI guys. I just took in an oranda goldfish. Ive never had one before and wanted to make sure I'm taking care of it right. I have it in a 20 gallon long (I'm getting a 40breeder in may). Its about 72/74 degrees, and I have a hob filter. Is this ok? The goldfish is about 3 inches long at the moment.
 

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Robinn
  • #2
Not an expert but that sounds right from what I've heard. Good luck with your new buddy!
 

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goldface
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Sounds good to me. I won't even ask about the HOB. Regular weekly water maintenance is vastly more important. I'd do at least 50 percent weekly, although you could get away with less.
 
Princethepurplebetta
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  • #4
Sounds good to me. I won't even ask about the HOB. Regular weekly water maintenance is vastly more important. I'd do at least 50 percent weekly, although you could get away with less.
The hob is an aquaclear, should I add another filter to help? I plan on doing 50-60% weekly or when its needed. I have the apI test kit, ill be testing water daily. Will it be ok on its own? Should I get it a buddy? Will it be ok in the 20 until may?
 
Robinn
  • #5
The hob is an aquaclear, should I add another filter to help? I plan on doing 50-60% weekly or when its needed. I have the apI test kit, ill be testing water daily. Will it be ok on its own? Should I get it a buddy? Will it be ok in the 20 until may?

What model is the aquaclear? That will help us decide whether a second is needed or not.
If you give it a tankmate you'll need to upgrade the tank, preferable to a 40g. Tankmates are very nice to have though.
 
goldface
  • #6
The hob is an aquaclear, should I add another filter to help? I plan on doing 50-60% weekly or when its needed. I have the apI test kit, ill be testing water daily. Will it be ok on its own? Should I get it a buddy? Will it be ok in the 20 until may?
You'll be fine on the filter as long as you do large weekly water changes. If you're using established media, save yourself the time and don't bother testing. Just do your water changes. That's what's important. Save the filter money for when you get the 40 breeder.

You could even do twice weekly the first couple weeks. You could do 2 goldfish until May easily. I'm assuming the fish are small and young, and you're not going to go out and buy XL or XXL goldfish, lol.
 

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Skavatar
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you can add another small one, they'll be fine in there for a few months.
 
Princethepurplebetta
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  • #8
What model is the aquaclear? That will help us decide whether a second is needed or not.
If you give it a tankmate you'll need to upgrade the tank, preferable to a 40g. Tankmates are very nice to have though.
The 30 I believe. I'm getting a 40 gallon in may

You'll be fine on the filter as long as you do large weekly water changes. If you're using established media, save yourself the time and don't bother testing. Just do your water changes. That's what's important. Save the filter money for when you get the 40 breeder.

You could even do twice weekly the first couple weeks. You could do 2 goldfish until May easily. I'm assuming the fish are small and young, and you're not going to go out and buy XL or XXL goldfish, lol.
Ok thanks! I was thinking of the same size goldfish as he is. Is the OmegaOne brand a good flake food for them? I'm planning on doing flakes and frozen (I already have blood worms and brine shrimp)
 
goldface
  • #9
Ok thanks! I was thinking of the same size goldfish as he is. Is the OmegaOne brand a good flake food for them? I'm planning on doing flakes and frozen (I already have blood worms and brine shrimp)
I don't use Omega One, but I see no problem with it. I personally feed mine Tetra Flakes, for my smaller goldfish, and HikarI Goldfish (and even Koi pellets) pellets for my larger fish. To feed flakes, I simply grab a small pinch, submerge it in front of the filter output, crush, and release. This makes it easier for the fish to feed, and also gets them into a foraging mood. I recommend feeding once or twice a day, and not too much. Also, be careful with feeding frozen. It's very easy to feed too much at once, and try not to feed it too often either. I really suggest once a week max. I rarely feed mine frozen because goldfish are detrivores, so I try to avoid feeding a rich diet. Even flakes are rich compared to what goldfish (or gibel carp) in their natural environment will normally consume--which is why they have to feed constantly, to compensate for the low-nutrient diet. In an aquarium setting, obviously the case is different. Lastly, many goldfish keepers feed their fish vegetables. I usually don't. I'm not saying it's bad, but it's not the best either. The plant matter mine get are algae, like hair algae, and aquatic plants, like duckweed and frogbit. Maybe on occasion I'll throw in some fresh grass-clippings or old, wilted lettuce for them to chew on, but that's about the extent of land-growing plants they'll receive. It just isn't as digestible as aquatic plants. Here is a feeding article by a goldfish breeder and biologist Steve Hopkins: . I normally follow his guidelines and my fish are all very healthy. Pick healthy fish, do large water changes often, and feed sparingly. Do those things and you will be more successful than most.
 
Princethepurplebetta
  • Thread Starter
  • #10
I don't use Omega One, but I see no problem with it. I personally feed mine Tetra Flakes, for my smaller goldfish, and HikarI Goldfish (and even Koi pellets) pellets for my larger fish. To feed flakes, I simply grab a small pinch, submerge it in front of the filter output, crush, and release. This makes it easier for the fish to feed, and also gets them into a foraging mood. I recommend feeding once or twice a day, and not too much. Also, be careful with feeding frozen. It's very easy to feed too much at once, and try not to feed it too often either. I really suggest once a week max. I rarely feed mine frozen because goldfish are detrivores, so I try to avoid feeding a rich diet. Even flakes are rich compared to what goldfish (or gibel carp) in their natural environment will normally consume--which is why they have to feed constantly, to compensate for the low-nutrient diet. In an aquarium setting, obviously the case is different. Lastly, many goldfish keepers feed their fish vegetables. I usually don't. I'm not saying it's bad, but it's not the best either. The plant matter mine get are algae, like hair algae, and aquatic plants, like duckweed and frogbit. Maybe on occasion I'll throw in some fresh grass-clippings or old, wilted lettuce for them to chew on, but that's about the extent of land-growing plants they'll receive. It just isn't as digestible as aquatic plants. Here is a feeding article by a goldfish breeder and biologist Steve Hopkins: . I normally follow his guidelines and my fish are all very healthy. Pick healthy fish, do large water changes often, and feed sparingly. Do those things and you will be more successful than most.
Thank you so much!
 

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