OMG a new alternative to PRIME that does NOT stink!!! In LOVE!

uncclewis
  • #1
Hey guys look at this; I was still using prime but guess what this stuff does not stink. What do you guys think of how it compares to prime?
 
Aster
  • #2
Isn't this more geared towards marine tanks?
 
Wraithen
  • #4
How much prime are you using at once? Lol. I get a whiff right as it's going in but it never lingers.
 
TexasDomer
  • #5
It shouldn't be smelling up your apartment. How much are you using? Once I add the few mls to my tanks, I don't smell it anymore.
 
Aster
  • #6
If I'm not mistaken, this product contains the exact same ingredient that makes Prime smell like sulfur, hydrosulfite salts. Give it a try, by all means, but I'm not sure if it will live up to its claims.
 
uncclewis
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
I spill it sometimes... I have the 4L bottle of it, I pour it in from there, but I would imagine that the smell stays it is just diluted and my aquarium has a slight smell from it. So I wanted to try something else. I also have a cat and all of these noxious fumes are additive heh. Also, this is cheaper. What do you guys think of how it compares? The only thing is it seems like it affects dyes and other things which prime doesn't but I don't know about heavy metals. But those my plants kinda like except uranium, so I don't know how bad that is... Also, how long does prime detoxify heavy metals?

My aquariums are big and I have high ammonia, nitrite and nitrate in tap

Well that sucks! darn... can't these people not use sulfur. I also didn't want sulfur because of my denitrification system. And it reminds me my processing of life cereal. This one I won't be trying because it is the same thing. Thanks for the tips! I will email the maker before I purchase. I appreciate the advise on this product folks. Only when I run out. I have 3L left!

If I'm not mistaken, this product contains the exact same ingredient that makes Prime smell like sulfur, hydrosulfite salts. Give it a try, by all means, but I'm not sure if it will live up to its claims.
 
TexasDomer
  • #8
What do you mean your plants like heavy metals?

What's the dosage?

You should look into using Seachem Safe.
 
Wraithen
  • #9
Have you looked into premier by aqua vitro by seachem? That might be right up your alley.
 
uncclewis
  • Thread Starter
  • #10
can you send me the link on amazon; I cancelled my other order but here I stand stinky because I spilled some on me tonight. It is annoying lol
 
Wraithen
  • #11
Unfortunately any link sent is actually against aqua vitro's rules. They want it kept to smaller mom and pop type things. You can find it on ebay but they've been pretty good about no longer authorizing dealers who sell online.
 
gqsmooth
  • #12
Prime is a top notch product, suck it up man. I'm sure your bowel movements smell worse.
 
uncclewis
  • Thread Starter
  • #13
Than that?!? Nope lol. But I have one that I can use next that I have not tried. How does it compare to amquel
 
Wraithen
  • #14
If you're asking me I don't know. I'm not familiar with amquel. If you were close I'd give you my bottle. It was one of 3 variables that could have helped cause my shrimp to slowly die off so I quit using it. It doesn't do anything with metals like prime does, and it doesn't do the ammonia part the same way. It binds to make ammonium somehow but the bond isn't permanent.
 
uncclewis
  • Thread Starter
  • #15
Prime isn't permenant either, I think. CindiL
 
Wraithen
  • #16
No it isn't, I didn't mean to confer that, I just meant that making it into a permanent ammonium wasn't what the product does so if your plants don't eat it and your bacteria aren't there it turns right back into ammonia.
 
uncclewis
  • Thread Starter
  • #17
Well, how does amquel plus compare to prime in terms of smell?
 
Aquaphobia
  • #18
What about transferring some Prime to a smaller container for dosing the tank? You could do that outside and then hopefully you won't be as likely to spill it from the small bottle.
 
uncclewis
  • Thread Starter
  • #19
Well sometimes I pour it into my 2 L but that results in minute spills. Lol. I really just wish they would use phosphate or something not so stinky .and when I make it. I feel like I'm decomposing. Well my whole place does. Stink bomb
 
LJC6780
  • #20
Use a syringe to dose it? No spills.
 
abrooks12376
  • #21
Just use safe and thank the stars such a product exists for us fish geeks
 
ryanr
  • #22
My mum uses Fraction; it still has the same faint sulfur smell as Prime.

I also thought Prime treated heavy metals, but maybe I'm mistaken.

The fish expert at the LFS also suggested that the person behind Prime is also behind Fraction. Might explain why they're basically the same product.
 
Wraithen
  • #23
Prime does treat heavy metals. I'm not sure if you can keep prime in a fridge, that would reduce the smell when dosing.

I've got a really sensitive nose myself. I'm surprised that I only smell the prime for a second. I can usually tell when colognes and perfumes use some rather disgusting things to make their scents, but I also like some smells I shouldn't. I kind
of actually like the smell a skunk has when it isn't spraying within feet of me.
 
abrooks12376
  • #24
Come smell my dog Wraithen! Took one to the face the other night.. prime treats heavies,.safe does not.
 
Jim
  • #25
OP, You do know that you can overdose Prime, right. I use Prime all the time and maybe, I sometimes get a whiff for a second.
 
Wraithen
  • #26
Come smell my dog Wraithen! Took one to the face the other night.. prime treats heavies,.safe does not.
I've got a chessie so just petting him leaves a certain smell on my hands unlike any other dog I've experienced. He is also having some anal gland expression issues so I get to smell that after my wife expresses him. I think I've got you beat. Sorry for the derail op.
 
CindiL
  • #27
I find what smells after using prime is the bottle so I keep mine in a ziploc bag between uses and then no smell.

Prime is permanent except for ammonia and nitrite detoxification, then you need to re-dose every 24-48 hours.

You could switch to Amquel Plus though it is more expensive per gallon and you would need to also use their Rid Metals product at the same time if you have copper, zinc or lead in your water.
 
LJC6780
  • #28
Come smell my dog Wraithen! Took one to the face the other night.. prime treats heavies,.safe does not.

I thought Safe was the powdered version of Prime ... so prime will treat metals in the water?
 
abrooks12376
  • #29
I thought Safe was the powdered version of Prime ... so prime will treat metals in the water?
That it is, more concentrated, it does not claim to detox heavy metals.
 
clk89
  • #30
I find that using a syringe helps a lot with the smell of prime. I mostly smell it when I first open the bottle. It doesn't bother me, but it bothers my husband who's nose is super sensitive I'm not sure I could ever bring him to yellow stone.
 
CindiL
  • #31
Prime takes care of heavy metals, they do not mention Safe doing the same thing though.
 
LJC6780
  • #32
Prime takes care of heavy metals, they do not mention Safe doing the same thing though.

Sounds like I need to email or switch to Prime.

Email sent! I'll let you know what they say!
 
uncclewis
  • Thread Starter
  • #33
OK; Latest update guys! Continuum Fraction has some similarities to prime and is yet even more advanced. It has minimal or no odor. Alright, bye bye prime! Wont miss you! lol
 
LJC6780
  • #34
OK, Latest update guys! It has some similarities to prime and is yet even more advanced. It has minimal or no odor. Alright, bye bye prime! Wont miss you! lol

What else does it do?
 
uncclewis
  • Thread Starter
  • #35
It doesn't stink! But otherwise does the same things. And it is cheaper! The mix apparently allows for the compound to be more stable and not have the toxic fumes.
 
TexasDomer
  • #36
So it's not really more advanced. What do you mean by more stable? Chemically more stable? How so?

Prime does not have toxic fumes.
 
abrooks12376
  • #37
Toxic fumes?? Mildly offensive and toxic are completely unrelated. The fact is that most aquarist use prime with all types of source water, end result? Fish still swimming and the they're alive despite the exposure to toxic fumes (hah). Let's see some experiments with your new , fantastic, extra amazing dechlor.
 
uncclewis
  • Thread Starter
  • #38
I think you took too literally my use of toxic fumes. I meant volatile. Bad use of words. I am not saying that seachem prime is bad per say, just that it really stinks. So, a compound that doesn't stink that works as well is better! I am merely saying that the other product is more stable and thus less volatile and therefore does not easily vaporize and form that smell that you smell.

I am here laughing because I am pretty sure that most people will end up using it and if they do not, I hope that keeps my price lower for my less stinky stuff. They are very similar products, just the prime mixture is more volatile.

The compounds are technically harmful yes but in their concentrations probably not. Here is the MSDS of uncomplexed hydrosulfite. See the odor you are smelling is the uncomplexed one and is the harmful for you, this is far more complicated than I want to get into and is no where near as lethal as excel, but suffice it to say I just want one that stinks less.
 
clk89
  • #39
Prime is not volatile, nor is it less stable then what you are using. It's like you are trying to make prime sound really really bad so you can sell this other water conditioner. They are pretty much the same thing from what I have read. It really just depends on the nose of the individual people as far as odor goes.

Like I said earlier my husband has a super sensitive nose so lots of things bother him. He can walk into the mall and smell someone's perfume that I can not detect. He also sneezes at a lot of things too lol. I use prime because I like it, I just use a syringe so he doesn't smell it as much.

It's fine if people use prime, it's fine if people decide to use your water conditioner too since they seem to do the same thing. It's not really some sort of competition.
 
uncclewis
  • Thread Starter
  • #40
I am not trying to sell anything! Do you know the definition of volatile? Lol, it means that it has a tendency to form a gaseous substance. Gases are the only thing we are ever smelling. So, if something smells less and is the same exact hydrosulfite salts- the only difference is that the other product either has less hydrosulfite or is more stable through a complex of molecules binding it. My guess is that it is complexed with compounds which make it less volatile.
 

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