No need to cycle a planted tank?

mcronix
  • #1
I'm going to be setting up by 40 gallon breeder soon and have read a lot recently about not needing to fully cycle a planted tank as you would do if there were no plants.

I have a sand substrate and do not plan to use fertilizers or CO2 as I plan to grow easy plants, something like this:
15-20 Italian Vals as background plants
2-4 Bacopa
2-3 Amazon Sword
3 Java Fern
Some dwarf sag
Java moss

I don't feel that comfortable adding fish straight away although I have read this will be OK.

Am I OK adding 6 neons or something soon after starting this planted tank up?
 
clk89
  • #2
I would still cycle, you still need a cycleed tank with a planted tank. Plants may drink some of the nitrites/ammonia/nitrates but they won't cycle a tank. They can greatly help a tank, especially when heavily planted. Heavily planted means you can't hardly see the background or substrate through the plants.

If you add fish before the tank is cycled then you would be doing a fish-in cycle, and should use hardy fish. I don't believe neon tetras (I'm assuming is what you mean by neons) are hardy enough for that.
 
smee82
  • #3
You still need to.cycle but your cycle should be quicker how much depending on how the.plants were grown and the total biomass.
 
Maeve
  • #4
Silent cycling isn't for a beginner as the methods used (often walstad) and the types of fish (think micro/low bioload and specific snails) make it very limiting.

I would still cycle, fishless for neons.
 
fredfish
  • #5
I think with a decent amount of plants you could add a bottle of TSS+ and be fine. 6 neons would be such a small bio load.
 
mcronix
  • Thread Starter
  • #6
This seems to be like a topic that divides opinion. I've read many sources supported the need to cycle as well as the opposite when it comes to planted tanks....
 
clk89
  • #7
It's not really about having plants or not having plants that determine whether you cycle or not. I mean with that statement one could say hey I have one moss ball so no need to cycle I just need to dumb all the fish in there.

It's more about choosing to do a certain tank setup such as waistland, which is more complicated then just having plants in the tank. Like Maeve said you would need to choose certain fish too. It's a difficult process from what I have read, and can be difficult to maintain. It's also not something I would feel comfortable doing myself, because I still feel as though I am a beginner at aquariums.
 

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