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I visited a lfs yesterday and I had a interesting converstation with them on why they are selling rtc, aros, gars, and other large fish and they said it's for the money to my face. They said if the people don't buy them here then they will go some where else and the funny thing is is that there are no other lfs's that sell a lot of those fish around here and the few that do won't let you buy them unless you have the proper conditions. They told me they don't care the fish die anyways and lied to me and told me it's all about the money right to my face. Screw them, no more of my buisness and I get all my fish items from lfs's too.

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but don't ALL stores sell things to make money? I think I missed a critical part of your post. They are in a retail business - why is successful marketing bad?
 

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They shouldn't be in the business if they don't care about the fish. When most people start a business like a petstore yes, it's too make money, but it's also because they have passion for what they are selling or doing in that business whether it's a store or not. These people really shouldn't be in the fish business if all they want is money out of it. Natalie
 

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very true!

They shouldn't be in the business if they don't care about the fish. When most people start a business like a petstore yes, it's too make money, but it's also because they have passion for what they are selling or doing in that business whether it's a store or not. These people really shouldn't be in the fish business if all they want is money out of it. Natalie
 

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i can understnad them sellling those fish for the money its a local fishstore and the can lose everything if they cant make there money...but i dont think they should sell fish to anybody...most of the time at the lfs or the big chain stores they ask you about you tank..the only times i would agree with them selling someone a fish that is not right for there tank is if lets say someone buys a bala thats 4 inches long and keeps in in a 20 gallon tank for week or two while there bigger tank is cycling .. lfs prices are normaly higher to begin with ..the fish at my lfs are much better cared for and in better shape but anywhere from 1$-5$ dollars more and lesser grantees
 

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One of the things we plan to do once we have a store is a big sign say " We reserve the right not to sell to anyone".
 
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Are these legally protected fish? Like endangered?
Ah old topic. No they aren't endangered, get over a foot sometimes two, average person doesn't have the right size tank for them.

That's a good idea Dino, I know stores that do that and they sell tanks and equipment to outfit a tank large enough for large fish, so there's no problem selling big fish.
 

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Ech...I think the point of my question was missed. I didn't see anything in the authors post indicating wanton disregard. Admitting that you stock something because it sells well doesn't mean that you don't care about the fish.

And Dino, while I respect that you care enough about the fish to try to make sure each one goes to a good home, I would also question the business ethic. If you conduct a biography of everyone buying a fish you're going to upset a lot of potential customers, and perhaps turn people off of fishkeeping altogether.

No offense to meant to anyone, I'm just not sure why making money is a bad thing.
 

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Ech...I think the point of my question was missed. I didn't see anything in the authors post indicating wanton disregard. Admitting that you stock something because it sells well doesn't mean that you don't care about the fish.

And Dino, while I respect that you care enough about the fish to try to make sure each one goes to a good home, I would also question the business ethic. If you conduct a biography of everyone buying a fish you're going to upset a lot of potential customers, and perhaps turn people off of fishkeeping altogether.

No offense to meant to anyone, I'm just not sure why making money is a bad thing.
Its not that its bad to make or want to make money. Its bad to do it at the expense of knowingly harming other life. Yes, that doesn't mean that everyone will be honest. It just means that the owner HAS ethics. As for upsetting people, that will most certainly happen. However, I must admit, I like my lfs fish lady because she too tells it like it is. I don't know how strict she is about it yet, I just know she tries.
 

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profit & ethics

It's a very good thing for a business to make money. Part of that is customer satisfaction & support. A store dealing in live animals that doesn't care if those animals live or die certainly can expect to lose customers (and money). A store that treats animals ethically will get more support & deservedly so.
 

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yep...nothing wrong with making a buck. We all gotta do it. Here is where they crossed the line though...

They told me they don't care the fish die
 

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hmms if you were to drop the money subject out of the first part of this post. then go from there on whats been said
 
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Ech...I think the point of my question was missed. I didn't see anything in the authors post indicating wanton disregard. Admitting that you stock something because it sells well doesn't mean that you don't care about the fish.


No offense to meant to anyone, I'm just not sure why making money is a bad thing.
yep...nothing wrong with making a buck. We all gotta do it. Here is where they crossed the line though...
Ya that was my point when I made the post, they told me they don't care if the fish die even though they knew the fish would probably die, they just wanted the money.

hmms if you were to drop the money subject out of the first part of this post. then go from there on whats been said
I'm confused here??


For the record, the store closed recently, couldn't make enough money, partly because the owner didn't know how to run the store well. Store didn't even make it two years, and it's not because of the big chain stores, there's plenty other small chain stores by me.
 

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maybe if they'd tried to build customer support and treated the fish properly, they'd still be in business.
 
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O well they only tried to sell muts for 700$ too, not joking there either....
 
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