No chance of nerite eggs hatching in freshwater?

I noticed a very small snail today hovering on the glass (around 1/4 cm). The only snail in there are the moment is a nerite from the beginning of the year. The other stock is ember tetras from 2018 and RCS from 2017. All plants are in-vitro and none of them are recent.
I’m a bit confused as to how the baby got in. Pic attached. Sorry it’s blurry but the snail kept on moving so could not get focus. It is a very light ting of orange with a triangular black marking at the back. Is it 100% that nerite eggs don’t hatch in freshwater?

 

they normally need to be in salt or atleast brackish, but there have been some very very rare cases of hatching in freshwater.

can you maybe try just mixing in a 5 gal bucket saltwater solution? or could you ask an lfs to care for it till it can be returned home?
i can see a lot of tiny white dots on your driftwood, or is it bubbles on glass, if its not on glass then i think its snails eggs, photo is blurry as you stated so makes things hard to help you.
Good luck

 

Sorry, my phone camera isn’t great and the shrimps zipping around all the time mean I can never get a good focus on the tank.

Yes, those are nerite eggs. I have the one in there since Jan and she has gone to town on laying eggs on the driftwood and glass.

The shrimp seem to be picking the snail up and carrying it back from the glass to the substrate. I have now seen the snail in the the substrate and it does seem to have the racer markings similar to the nerite I have.

I will have a read up on their natural process and see if there is anything I can do.

 

I 100% don't think it is a nerite. Eggs take a while to hatch. It probably came with your latest plant or fish you added.

 

I don't think you have a nerite snail. Nerites need a male to fertilize the eggs, unlike other snails that reproduce asexually.

I don't know what you have from the blurry picture, but seems highly unlikely to be a nerite knowing there has to be a male and female for the eggs to even be viable.

Nerites also need the brackish water for the larval stage, they may hatch to larvae but they won't survive to mini snails without brackish water. There are freshwater nerites, they also sexually reproduce and like fast moving highly oxygenated water which is why they aren't in the aquarium hobby.

Can you get a good picture of the adult?

 

Unfortunately I can’t get any pictures that are not blurry as the RCS zipping around make it impossible for the camera to focus.

I haven’t bought any plants recently and even the ones I had from before are tissue culture so not sure where this has come from

I’ll just wait and see what I end up with

 

Please let us know. You've got my curiosity peaked.

 

I will do. I’m curious too as i have not added anything to the tank for a long time and I only realised after posting that nerites need a male and female to reproduce so want to see what I end up with

 

Judging by color alone I would guess ramshorn.

 

It’s been nearly two weeks since my last post and I had not seen the snail. It’s made a reappearance just now and this is hopefully a better pic:

 

Ah yes. It looks like a new Zeeland mud snail to me.

 

Oh no I just read up on what a New Zealand mud snail is and it’s not good

 

Oh no I just read up on what a New Zealand mud snail is and it’s not good

Does it look like those then?

 

I am not well versed with snails so I’m not sure at all. It does look like the pics of the New Zealand mud snail but it would be a huge stretch for one to have just ended up on there when nothing was added to the tank.

I have been looking at pics of baby snails on google images and it matches very closely to a trumpet snail. It looks like it has the twisted spiral of a trumpet snail. But at the same time a lot of pics seem to lead to threads debating that they could be pond snails.

I have also come across people finding snail eggs in tissue cultures. Therefore that leads me to think it’s more likely to be one of the common species out there as this tank only has tissue culture plants.

 

It made another reappearance today and it’s growing. It also has a much smaller friend. I’m guessing bladder snail but it’s still very small. Around 0.5cm

 

So I haven’t seen the two snails since I last posted but yesterday I came across a post on Reddit where someone was asking for ID on a hitchhiker snail. The pic they provided was exactly the same as what I’m seeing. I checked back this morning and it would appear it has been identified as a MTS. Looking at the pic I had before and looking at pics of adult MTS I can kind of see the resemblance. Very excited now and hope they make it.

 

identified as a MTS

Just be careful, MTS can reproduce quite quickly and you may end up with a large population of snails.

 

Just be careful, MTS can reproduce quite quickly and you may end up with a large population of snails.

The tank I have is 16.6 US gallon but an odd shape as it is only 35cm wide so very tall. I hated it and had planned on getting rid of it once the school of six ember tetra I had in there for 3 years had phased out.

But the height isn’t an issue for inverts so I added RCS to see if I enjoyed it and then fell in love with this tank with plans on heavily planting across the tank. I had wanted to start adding snails anyway to go alongside my one nerite so I don’t mind them.

I have now dedicated this tank it’s own equipment so that there is no cross contamination with the other tanks I have as I definitely do not want pest snails in those.

 

Well found this little guy in one of my other tanks. I feel this one is different to the ones in my shrimp tank. Again a mystery (pardon the pun) as this has come from a tank I did back at the beginning of covid as a lockdown project. It has had nothing go into it since then other than fish which I began introducing this year so I’m guessing eggs came via fish. For now I’ve moved him over to my shrimp tank.

Edit: Also, this one looks more like a ramshorn

 

You're right it is a ramshorn, the mystery goes on

 

Today this little snail has appeared in the same tank the ramshorn was found in. This one I’m not so sure on. It is definitely not a ramshorn and has a round shell that is very dark brown. Cannot get a picture on the substrate as the substrate is black and it is practically invisible when on substrate. This one is also significantly bigger than the others I have discovered so far.

For now I have moved him to my shrimp tank

 

That one looks like a bladder/pond snail can be quite invasive if not controll, much like mystery snails

 

That one looks like a bladder/pond snail can be quite invasive if not controll, much like mystery snails

I incorrectly identified it as a Apple snail. I’m going to remove it as I am worried it will start to out compete my shrimp colony and nerite snail.

 

Interesting.

I had assumed the small white dots were eggs. My nerites are in brackish so I assume any larvae are probably being picked off by the Endlers or sucked into the filter.

 

Interesting.

I had assumed the small white dots were eggs. My nerites are in brackish so I assume any larvae are probably being picked off by the Endlers or sucked into the filter.

You have to have pretty specific conditions even in brackish water to hatch nerites.

 

I think there are more failures then success I've never read here that anyone as hatched them