Nitrites And Nitrates In A Cycle

baldegale
  • #1
so I checked the water parameters for the first time in a couple days during my fishless cycle, 0ppm ammonia, more than max nitrites and nitrates. I added 2ppm ammonia but I was wondering with max nitrites and nitrates should I do a water change or just leave them be?
 
Inactive User
  • #2
Nitrate has fairly low toxicity to beneficial bacteria, but there isn't much scientific literature about how much nitrate is too much nitrate. If it's over 160 ppm, then I'd do a 50% water change just for the sake of it.

For nitrite, its toxicity to beneficial bacteria is related to pH: the lower the pH, the more toxic nitrite will be. As an example, a pH of 5.5 and a nitrite concentration of 10 ppm can stall a cycle. Generally, so long as your pH is high enough (75-8.5), it isn't urgently needed to do a water change to dilute nitrite.

That being said, I prefer having nitrite under 5 ppm because it's easier to track day to day changes. Nothing is more frustrating than seeing your nitrite test for over 5 ppm for over a week because you have an enormous backlog of nitrite that's being very slowly processed.
 
baldegale
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
Nitrate has fairly low toxicity to beneficial bacteria, but there isn't much scientific literature about how much nitrate is too much nitrate. If it's over 160 ppm, then I'd do a 50% water change just for the sake of it.

For nitrite, its toxicity to beneficial bacteria is related to pH: the lower the pH, the more toxic nitrite will be. As an example, a pH of 5.5 and a nitrite concentration of 10 ppm can stall a cycle. Generally, so long as your pH is high enough (75-8.5), it isn't urgently needed to do a water change to dilute nitrite.

That being said, I prefer having nitrite under 5 ppm because it's easier to track day to day changes. Nothing is more frustrating than seeing your nitrite test for over 5 ppm for over a week because you have an enormous backlog of nitrite that's being very slowly processed.

my pH has been fluctuating but is typically 7.4 and hasnt gone lower. I think I'm gonna do a water change just to be safe. I know it differs but on average how long does a cycle take after this point?
 
Inactive User
  • #4
I know it differs but on average how long does a cycle take after this point?

Is your ammonia being processed to 0 ppm within 24 hours, or it taking longer?
 
baldegale
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
Is your ammonia being processed to 0 ppm within 24 hours, or it taking longer?

not sure, I skipped two days of water checks due to being busy. but 3 days ago it was at 2ppm
 
AquaticJ
  • #6
I’d say a week or two from here.
 
Sarah73
  • #7
You want your ammonia and nitrites to be 0. Then you want your nitrates to be between 5-10ppm. That means you are cycled. What are you using to cycle?
 
baldegale
  • Thread Starter
  • #8
You want your ammonia and nitrites to be 0. Then you want your nitrates to be between 5-10ppm. That means you are cycled. What are you using to cycle?

fishless cycle with pure ammonia, haven't been adding prime cause I thought it was pointless past 1ppm
 
AquaticJ
  • #9
I would say nitrates don’t have to be 5-10 to know you’re cycled though, just make sure they’re low when you add fish.
 
Sarah73
  • #10
I would say nitrates don’t have to be 5-10 to know you’re cycled though, just make sure they’re low when you add fish.
I'm just rounding.
 
baldegale
  • Thread Starter
  • #11
it cycled 1ppm of ammonia in less than 24 hours, but the nitrites are still insane even after a 50% water change
 

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