John58ford
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Edit: teardown pictures in reply!
HI guys, it's me; your friendly neighborhood nicrew fanboy. Today I sadly had a nicrew fanboy level -150 incident when I had a heater I have recommended here go bad.
It was this one:



Which is allot like this one:

And on Amazon it looks like this:
NICREW MinI Preset Aquarium Heater, 25W Submersible Betta Fish Tank Heater with Electronic Thermostat Amazon.com: NICREW MinI Preset Aquarium Heater, 25W Submersible Betta Fish Tank Heater with Electronic Thermostat: Pet Supplies
Notice the recent reviews from this month..
There is a difference in their heaters that I use, I have 3 of the 15 watt, 2 currently running, one in box spare. I *had* one 25 watt.
The 25 watt was in a 5 gallon round, that I had put this generations endler guppy mutt fry in prior to the company coming for the holidays. I have been trying to tidy up my fish room and take the hobby a little more seriously since I'm no longer colony/mass breeding to feed a small reptile(he has moved on to worms and calcium supplements).
These heaters have a design flaw I have known about for quite a while, they have an internal mechanical float switch that gets stuck and the heater won't turn back on after a waterchange. If you rinse the heater off during your cleaning routine this is not a problem. I have always unplugged my heaters before changing water, and was not bothered by this.
My oldest 15 watt heater by them has been running since last May, and keeps that shallow tank in the second picture (snake pond/momma guppies) perfectly. The tank is very shallow, houses all breeds of baby snail, guppy fry and a semI aquatic snake so I needed one that didn't get burning hot to the touch, had no silly jagged cut outs, was not glass or fragile and could operate in just 6 inches of water/~4.5 gallons. The snake regularly beats the heck out of it and used it to climb on and it has had no issues. Despite a huge surface area (vs total volume)and mesh top on that tank I haven't needed a bigger heater as the tank also has a under tank heater on the dry side.
About 2 months ago it was coming time for my 4th generation of guppy fry to drop. I usually fully separate and grow them out between generations so I have a surge period of about 3 months on and 3 months off where I need multiple small bodies of water. My wife has kindly let me turn our family/sitting room into a fish room/reading room and asked that I not keep a bunch of Tupperware tubs scattered about, it was the least I could do. I pulled out some retired betta tanks and made them "pretty" (it's temporary). I needed another heater for the biggest one so I ordered another nicrew (the 15 watt spare is for the snake tank. Period. It was hard to find one I liked so it's sitting in the box forever). The only nicrew nano heater available at the time was the 25 watt of the same form factor. This was my mistake.
The 25 watt clearly should not have been the same form factor. Today I came in from building some shelves in my shed and noticed the female juvie tank was about 85 degrees. I unplugged and replugged the heater and noticed the led was not on, or flashing so I pulled it out. When I opened the lid you could smell a compound similar to chlorine. I tossed the heater in a pitcher of warm water and changed the water out in the baby tank. I put all the females in a specimen tank, while I washed the 5 gallon, I tossed the marbles in the dishwasher and loaded the tank up with some sand and rocks I had pulled from the snake tank. I pulled the sponge filter apart and washed the plastic, and gave the sponge a few too many squeezes so I have now (hopefully) reseeded it, but will seed again tomorrow after parameter testing.
Being a nerd, I decided I would run the heater in a pitcher of water while I ran to the lfs and bought the only 20 watt heater with a real switching thermostat in it they had, it's the topfin betta heater, hopefully it runs for a while longer than the nicrew 25 watt did. About an hour into the testing in the pitcher, all the magic smoke did indeed come out of the nicrew, it was awful. Black water, smelled like electricity in a fireworks stand.
Tomorrow, if I get a minute I will put the heater on the electronics bench at work and see what I can see. Sadly I didn't think to take a picture of the nasty black water in the pitcher to share with you. I'll post any findings for the nerds among us.
I can now say, please, do not buy that heater I recommended. I will be continuing the search for a good small form factor heater, and hope that the 15 watt units do not fail while I am away from home. So far, none of my undetermined, or female fry/juvies have passed but I would not be surprised if there are issues down the road from whatever chemical that gave the chlorine odor.
I still do like the light by nicrew I have used, but the heaters may be further dismantled for science...
HI guys, it's me; your friendly neighborhood nicrew fanboy. Today I sadly had a nicrew fanboy level -150 incident when I had a heater I have recommended here go bad.
It was this one:



Which is allot like this one:

And on Amazon it looks like this:
NICREW MinI Preset Aquarium Heater, 25W Submersible Betta Fish Tank Heater with Electronic Thermostat Amazon.com: NICREW MinI Preset Aquarium Heater, 25W Submersible Betta Fish Tank Heater with Electronic Thermostat: Pet Supplies
Notice the recent reviews from this month..
There is a difference in their heaters that I use, I have 3 of the 15 watt, 2 currently running, one in box spare. I *had* one 25 watt.
The 25 watt was in a 5 gallon round, that I had put this generations endler guppy mutt fry in prior to the company coming for the holidays. I have been trying to tidy up my fish room and take the hobby a little more seriously since I'm no longer colony/mass breeding to feed a small reptile(he has moved on to worms and calcium supplements).
These heaters have a design flaw I have known about for quite a while, they have an internal mechanical float switch that gets stuck and the heater won't turn back on after a waterchange. If you rinse the heater off during your cleaning routine this is not a problem. I have always unplugged my heaters before changing water, and was not bothered by this.
My oldest 15 watt heater by them has been running since last May, and keeps that shallow tank in the second picture (snake pond/momma guppies) perfectly. The tank is very shallow, houses all breeds of baby snail, guppy fry and a semI aquatic snake so I needed one that didn't get burning hot to the touch, had no silly jagged cut outs, was not glass or fragile and could operate in just 6 inches of water/~4.5 gallons. The snake regularly beats the heck out of it and used it to climb on and it has had no issues. Despite a huge surface area (vs total volume)and mesh top on that tank I haven't needed a bigger heater as the tank also has a under tank heater on the dry side.
About 2 months ago it was coming time for my 4th generation of guppy fry to drop. I usually fully separate and grow them out between generations so I have a surge period of about 3 months on and 3 months off where I need multiple small bodies of water. My wife has kindly let me turn our family/sitting room into a fish room/reading room and asked that I not keep a bunch of Tupperware tubs scattered about, it was the least I could do. I pulled out some retired betta tanks and made them "pretty" (it's temporary). I needed another heater for the biggest one so I ordered another nicrew (the 15 watt spare is for the snake tank. Period. It was hard to find one I liked so it's sitting in the box forever). The only nicrew nano heater available at the time was the 25 watt of the same form factor. This was my mistake.
The 25 watt clearly should not have been the same form factor. Today I came in from building some shelves in my shed and noticed the female juvie tank was about 85 degrees. I unplugged and replugged the heater and noticed the led was not on, or flashing so I pulled it out. When I opened the lid you could smell a compound similar to chlorine. I tossed the heater in a pitcher of warm water and changed the water out in the baby tank. I put all the females in a specimen tank, while I washed the 5 gallon, I tossed the marbles in the dishwasher and loaded the tank up with some sand and rocks I had pulled from the snake tank. I pulled the sponge filter apart and washed the plastic, and gave the sponge a few too many squeezes so I have now (hopefully) reseeded it, but will seed again tomorrow after parameter testing.
Being a nerd, I decided I would run the heater in a pitcher of water while I ran to the lfs and bought the only 20 watt heater with a real switching thermostat in it they had, it's the topfin betta heater, hopefully it runs for a while longer than the nicrew 25 watt did. About an hour into the testing in the pitcher, all the magic smoke did indeed come out of the nicrew, it was awful. Black water, smelled like electricity in a fireworks stand.
Tomorrow, if I get a minute I will put the heater on the electronics bench at work and see what I can see. Sadly I didn't think to take a picture of the nasty black water in the pitcher to share with you. I'll post any findings for the nerds among us.
I can now say, please, do not buy that heater I recommended. I will be continuing the search for a good small form factor heater, and hope that the 15 watt units do not fail while I am away from home. So far, none of my undetermined, or female fry/juvies have passed but I would not be surprised if there are issues down the road from whatever chemical that gave the chlorine odor.
I still do like the light by nicrew I have used, but the heaters may be further dismantled for science...