Newbie with a new tank. Help!

Discussion in 'Freshwater Beginners' started by ColorMeHappy, Jul 4, 2016.

  1. ColorMeHappyNew MemberMember

    I have always loved watching fish. So we discussed it, and decided to get a medium sized tank. Today, he found an awesome deal on a 46 gallon bowfront with a lovely oak stand and a Fluval 308 canister filter, among other extras, and surprised me with it. All I have to do is clean the tank and stand up. Nothing that warm water and a sponge couldn't fix. I have been reading everything I can for the last few months, and feel pretty confident with this size tank, and have an excellent resource right down the road in the form of my local specialty store. So, I have everything cleaned and ready to go. However, our living room is set up weird, so I only have two options: in front of the front window (covered by blackout/energy saver curtains that we rarely open since my dogs bark at my hummingbird feeder hanging right outside it. Newer windows, so no drafts) or the interior wall next to my couch which will narrow my hallway entrance, and puts it closer to my fireplace, which we do use in the winter. Otherwise, I will have to put it in another room, which will severely limit my enjoyability of it. Can anyone recommend the better solution here? In the interest of full disclosure, there is a temperate basement under the house, and the interior wall is a load bearing wall. Whoever built this house reinforced ALL the flooring for the main floor. My preference would be to put it by the window simply because it would work best with the set up of the room and still allow us to be able to move large objects down the hall if ever we need to. But if it would cause issues for a freshwater tank, then I will put it against the wall. My hope is to go to the local supply in a few weeks, and pick out a couple dwarf gourami (1 male, 1-2 females), and a few community tank mates (I love angels too, so suggestions on whether or not they could live together in a planted tank, and/or what others could all go together much appreciated!) after planting and cycling the tank and getting the nitrogen cycle established. So, what I guess I am saying, is HELP! Thanks everyone!
  2. codyrex97Well Known MemberMember

    I would put it by the window if it were me.

    Are you planning to use prime and stability or TSS+ to cycle?
  3. CindiLFishlore LegendMember

    Hi, welcome to fishlore :;hi2

    How exciting for you. Have you read throught the nitrogen cycle article? Very important you know this.

    Have you decided if you're going to cycle with pure ammonia? or with fish? We can help you with either though cycling with ammonia will be less stress for you and easier to do and you won't have to worry constantly about hurting a fish.

    I'd recommend purchasing the API Master Liquid Test kit to do all your testing with.
  4. FreshFishesValued MemberMember

    Hi! Welcome to fishlore! I think as long as the window is mostly or entirely covered so that no direct sunlight hits the tank, it would be a great place to put your tank. Nice big size tank, great for a a beginner. I see you know about the nitrogen cycle. You've definitely done your research! I believe that you could do 1 male 2 female dwarf gouramis, and another great breed that you could try is the honey gourami.very peaceful, only grow about 2-3 inches. If you would like, You could add in a nice school of 10-12 cories. Some higher temperature tolerant ones include sterbai and aeneous cories. There are many other great community fish to choose from. Not sure about angels though. I have never kept them.
    Before you pick up your fish after the cycle, I would recommend getting the API liquid freshwater master test kit. This is a little pricey up front, but contains (supposedly) over 800 tests and is much more reliable than the cheap strips. Seachem prime is the commonly used water conditioner around here, and Stability, a bottled beneficial bacteria compatible with water changes, works great with Prime. Thanks again for joining us, hope we can help you keep a happy, healthy home for your fishy friends.
  5. ColorMeHappyNew MemberMember

    I have read the nitrogen cycle article, which was extremely helpful! I was planning on picking up pure ammonia after work tomorrow,when J handed me a small bottle of Jack's Pets Bioboost biological water conditioner. He was instructed by the gentleman he got my tank from to use this to start the nitrogen cycle. (The gentleman had upgraded to a 220 I believe? So didn't have a use for this smaller tank any longer)

    I think I will make a trip to the local fish specialist tomorrow after work! I will pick up the test kit for certain while I am there, as well as a good thermometer (it came with a sticky tape one that was peeling off, so I just removed it). Does anyone have experience using the Jack's brand conditioner? Thanks so much everyone! I spent my evening poking around, and have found some excellent information!
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  6. CindiLFishlore LegendMember

    It appears to be a bacterial additive to help cycle your tank and not a water conditioner. I'd highly recommend Seachem Prime for your water conditioner.

    You will still need an ammonia source, either something like ace hardware ammonia or fish but if you decide to go with fish only get 1 fish per 10g for the first two weeks to establish your initial nitrifying cycle, very small fish like a schooling fish you can add in 2 per 10g but no more. After that you can slowly add in more fish.
  7. VickyBNew MemberMember

    Just from personal experience, for about 2 years I have had two tanks near a window that is kept covered most of the time and have never noticed any problems with the fish or plants - although my goldfish rarely let the plants live long enough to really tell!

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