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Ksully
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So ive had goldfish as a kid. Now about 3 years ago my son won a goldfish from the fair. Two years ago he won a second. The fish lived in harmony through various tanks until a few months ago when the larger older fish began to bite the smaller one. I rushed out and got a much bigger tank and planed to take the smaller fish and put it into the new tank where I could watch its recovery. I intended to do a cycle but after witnessing the attack I panicked and put the smaller fish in with one of our snails (thinking a snail would help with the cycle in some way idk why I assumed that)
about two weeks went by and I lost the fish and the snail. I was quite heartbroken to be honest. After coming home to find them we said our goodbyes and I cleaned the tankwith bleach rocks plants everything as some sort of white fungus or algae was growing on some decor. I rinsed very thoroughly. Now I have re set up the tank an am going on roughly week two of the cycle. maybe you'll consider it week 1 because I just did a 75 percent water change when after the first week no nitrate was present. In this tank I am using plants too as I've heard it can benefit the cycle. Now after my water change the next day using my apI freshwater master kit nitrites and nitrates began to show (my thought is maybe there was bleach left on the decor and the water change removed or diluted it enough to allow new growth) today the ammonia was testing a little over 1.ppm according to the kit so placed some rivershrimp in an empty filter bag and placed it in the tank to float around and uses a twist tie off a bread container to keep it closed as I've read old food could be why that algae appeared last time. Should I continue water changes or do I generaly just let it do its thing. I just don't want to lose this fish or any of our 2 remaining snails this is my tank below. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

I should also mention this time around I will be doing a fishless cycle


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75g Discus Tank
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What kind of goldfish are they?
 
puffer boi
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what size of tank is it?
 
Ksully
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this is a size 29 tank and ill be upgrading to a 55 at some point when I can find a place/money to do so as I hear they need a lot of space

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uploaded the wrong picture by mistake
the tank the fish is is maybe a 15 or more likly a 20 I bought it long time ago so I do t really remember
 

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GrayGray4231
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Did you say you don't know what kind it is?
 
Ksully
  • Thread Starter
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also I should say
ammonia is between.5 and 1ppm
nitrite is between.25 and.5
and nitrate is between 5 and 10

Did you say you don't know what kind it is?
gold fish yes, I do not know which kind it is. my son won it at a fair 3 years ago I assumed it was a common goldfish
 
GrayGray4231
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gold fish yes, I do not know which kind it is. my son won it at a fair 3 years ago I assumed it was a common goldfish
It is either a common or a comet goldfish, how many inches long is it?
 
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Ksully
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It is either a common or a comet goldfish, how many inches long is it?
Without actually scooping it to measure id say between 4 to 6 inches taking in waters magnification properties that's nose to tip of tail
 
GrayGray4231
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A comet can grow up to 13 inches if it's environment will let it. A common goldfish grows up to about a foot....again......if it's environment will let it.
 
Ksully
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A comet can grow up to 13 inches if it's environment will let it. A common goldfish grows up to about a foot....again......if it's environment will let it.
Right ive heard this which is why if I ever find the space for one id like to put it into a 55 gallon tank
 
CanadianJoeh
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Right ive heard this which is why if I ever find the space for one id like to put it into a 55 gallon tank
Unfortunately 1 common or comet goldfish requires upwards of 300 gallons.

You should look into building an outdoor pond for the upcoming summer! It's a fun project, I'd do it if I could
 
Ksully
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Unfortunately 1 common or comet goldfish requires upwards of 300 gallons.

You should look into building an outdoor pond for the upcoming summer! It's a fun project, I'd do it if I could
well thatch definitely a dream of mine but living in ny I fear it may get too cold without an expensive heater also renting out an apparent I don't think my landlords going to let me install a pond
 
puffer boi
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sounds like you should rehome
 
Ksully
  • Thread Starter
  • #14
as in move or give the fish away
 
CanadianJoeh
  • #15
as in move or give the fish away
The fish

Talk to your landlord, they may enjoy having a nice, great looking pond on their property for free more than you think.

I'm sure you could find a heater for not very expensive. As long as the water doesn't freeze solid, it's fine.
 
Ksully
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yeah in the long run I can look into that right now hes still a little guy so I'm sure **** be okay in the tank I'm setting up
 
CanadianJoeh
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yeah in the long run I can look into that right now hes still a little guy so I'm sure be okay in the tank I'm setting up
I would rehome them asap.

If kept in a tank too small for too long, their bodies will seize to grow, but their eyes, spine, and organs continue to grow. It becomes painful and generally results in a premature death.
 

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