New Tank Start Up

Discussion in 'Freshwater Beginners' started by JesusIsLord, Apr 17, 2018.

  1. JesusIsLordNew MemberMember

    hey ! I just recently started up my 10 gallon tank. I use Tetra AquaSafe the first day of cycling. The next day I noticed bubbles foaming and sticking together at the top of the tank. Also this day was when I turned on the heater. The 3rd day when I looked at the tank I noticed that it has a cloudy white film to it. What should I do next? Do I do something wrong?
     
  2. Caleb Smith

    Caleb SmithValued MemberMember

    What form of filtration are you using. The white film is Biofilm and should be broken up the surface agitation of a filter.
     
  3. OP
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  4. musserump09

    musserump09Well Known MemberMember

    Do you have any fish in the tank?
     
  5. OP
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    JesusIsLordNew MemberMember

    No I want the tank to cycle first
     




  6. Rainbows and Fishes

    Rainbows and FishesValued MemberMember

    I assume as the cycle continues this "white film" will go away. Often times the water during cycling will have imbalances that can cause odd films and algae to thrive. Once the cycle is completed these nutrients will dissipate and things should go back to normal.
     
  7. Frozen One

    Frozen OneValued MemberMember

    this is normal and not something I would worry about. Get something that is aquarium safe and swirl the water around. another option is to replace that filter with a better one. For my 10 gallon, I use an Aquaclear 20 and it is absolutely amazing
     
  8. mattgirl

    mattgirlFishlore VIPMember

    Welcome to fishlore

    Ok, you say you added AquaSafe. That product is just a water conditioner. Are you sure it is AquaSafe or could it be Tetra Safe Start Plus? The TSS+ is a bottled bacteria. The aquasafe won't do anything to start your cycle. What are you using for your ammonia source?

    You may want to read up on the steps that need to be taken to be successful while cycling without fish. The link below should help you.

    Nitrogen Cycle
     
  9. Frozen One

    Frozen OneValued MemberMember

    Hey just a question... So ever since I've fully understood the cycling process I have been thinking it is often over-complicated lol would you agree? It seems to be so simple, and a lot of it is just waiting. Also to the OP I would recommend seachem prime and seachem stability over any Tetra products
     
  10. mattgirl

    mattgirlFishlore VIPMember

    Yep, time and patience :D There really isn't anything complicated when it comes to cycling a tank. You add a food source, in this case ammonia (either fish, fish food or bottled ammonia) and the bacteria starts growing.
     
  11. OP
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    JesusIsLordNew MemberMember

    Even if I added the tetra safe start?

    First I added the tetra AquaSafe. Ran that for a day and it got cloudy the next. Then today I add the tetra safe start.
     
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  12. mattgirl

    mattgirlFishlore VIPMember

    Great. TSS+ is bottled bacteria. You will still need to add an ammonia source to feed that bacteria though.
     
  13. OP
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    JesusIsLordNew MemberMember

    They should really put this stuff on the bottle..
     
  14. mattgirl

    mattgirlFishlore VIPMember

    You are right, they really should. It may just be the way my mind works but I sometimes wonder if they do that on purpose. If the first bottle doesn't work folks often buy more thinking they might have done something wrong the first time.

    It used to be folks mostly did fish in cycles so the fish would be adding the ammonia source. Now a lot of folks are doing it fish-less and if they don't think to check places like this they don't realize that they have to feed the bacteria for it to grow. they just assume everything they need is in the bottle.
     
  15. Frozen One

    Frozen OneValued MemberMember

    I no longer find any point in doing fishless cycles lol
     
  16. mattgirl

    mattgirlFishlore VIPMember

    I've always cycled with fish but I do understand those that choose not to put fish through the cycling process. It takes a lot more work when lives are at stake. Water changes and lots of them are necessary to keep the fish healthy but if one is willing and able to do the work fish in cycles just plain work and work well.
     
  17. OP
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    JesusIsLordNew MemberMember

    I definitely agree a way for people to buy more of their products.

    So what would be better should I buy fish food or a fish??
     
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  18. mattgirl

    mattgirlFishlore VIPMember

    If you want to do a fish-less cycle you can buy pure ammonia. A lot of folks say that Ace Hardware has it. When I say pure ammonia I just mean ammonia with nothing added to it such as soap or any kind of fragrance to cover the odor. You can know if it is pure ammonia by shaking it. If it foams and the foam doesn't immediately go away it has soap in it.

    I got to thinking about this and to be fair to the company that makes TSS+ I have to point out that they designed their product to be used to cycle a tank with fish as the ammonia source. In that case there was no need for them to say anything about adding ammonia.
     
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  19. ASHLEY R COOK

    ASHLEY R COOKWell Known MemberMember

    I agree. I upgraded from my top fin power 40 to a aqua clear 50 and I like it so much better.
    If u do switch. Cut as my floss off the carbon filter as possible. That's where any of your BB will be at. The plastic bio thing is junk imo. But it wouldn't hurt to just put in your tank just in case it has any BB on it.
     
  20. OP
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    JesusIsLordNew MemberMember

    The fish tank process has just turned into a bigger project than what I expected. Thanks for everyone’s input. My fish tank is clear due to steps I took that were not mentioned.
     




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