New Tank Help Needed Please

Hi. So I have a 2 year old common goldfish currently residing in a 5 gallon tank and another comet goldfish that is residing in a 3 gallon fish tank (we rescued them from some abusive owners). They are not in the right size tank but for Christmas I received a 29 gallon Marineland aquarium kit. I currently have the aquarium set up(filter is running, decor is in, heater is set to lowest temperature) and have put in the aquarium conditioner given in the box in the water. How long will it be before I can put the fish in the new tank? Also will my 2 types of goldfish be okay living together(I ask this because my common goldfish killed my mystery snail that I had in the tank to help with the algae)? How can I lower the temperature in my tank (it currently sits at 76 but I would like to lower it bellow 72)? Also how do I know what their gender is(I don't want any baby fishies)? If y'all could offer some help that will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

 

Commons and Comets need ponds. Can you find somebody in your area that can take in the fish for their pond?

 

Commons and Comets need ponds. Can you find somebody in your area that can take in the fish for their pond?

Right now I would like to keep them until they get too big for this tank and then I have someone who is willing to take them.

 

Commons and Comets live together in many ponds but they can interbreed only when they reach sexual maturity. Right now it seems that they are too small to breed so it should be OK. Goldfish are coldwater fish so keep the tank at 68 degrees.

EDIT: Can you also send a pic?

 

If you have just set up the tank just know for future reference a cycled tank is the way to go. But I know these are extenuating circumstances so kudos to you for rescuing them. Since your tank is currently uncycled but you have to use it I would suggest purchasing Prime and Stability from Seachem. Prime helps as a dechlorinator and an ammonia reducer. Stability puts beneficial bacteria into your water that you are missing from an uncycled tank. The Stability will need to be put in everyday for 7days. Daily water changes of 30% help to cycle a tank quickly. If you have a friend with a HEALTHY cycled tank you can use some media from their tank to jumpstart yours. In the long run those fish WILL need larger ponds/tanks but until you can get them healthy and rehome them this is the way to go.

 

If you have just set up the tank just know for future reference a cycled tank is the way to go. But I know these are extenuating circumstances so kudos to you for rescuing them. Since your tank is currently uncycled but you have to use it I would suggest purchasing Prime and Stability from Seachem. Prime helps as a dechlorinator and an ammonia reducer. Stability puts beneficial bacteria into your water that you are missing from an uncycled tank. The Stability will need to be put in everyday for 7days. Daily water changes of 30% help to cycle a tank quickly. If you have a friend with a HEALTHY cycled tank you can use some media from their tank to jumpstart yours. In the long run those fish WILL need larger ponds/tanks but until you can get them healthy and rehome them this is the way to go.

Stability's bacteria will die off without a food source. You will need to feed it ammonia. I recommend rotting fish food as a source of food.

 

So below I have attached pictures of my fish and the new tank that they will be moving to when it gets cycled.How when will I know when the tank if finished being cycled? At what size will they be too big to stay in 29 gallon tank and will have to move to the pond? I love my fish and will be sad when I have to move them but will do it because it is what is best from them. Also how would you suggest lowering the temperature in the tank?

 

To lower temperature you can have a fan blowing across the surface of the tank's water. It will help a bit. Otherwise you would be looking into an item called a chiller and they are quite expensive. Much more so than a heater.

 

To lower temperature you can have a fan blowing across the surface of the tank's water. It will help a bit. Otherwise you would be looking into an item called a chiller and they are quite expensive. Much more so than a heater.

I haven't connected my air stone to the pump yet will that help cool the tank?

 

So you’re saying without the heater the water still stays too warm?
Thank you 75 gallon Discus Tank, I did forget to mention you will need sufficient ammonia to cycle the tank, the easiest being uneaten fish food. You can also purchase pure ammonia.

You will know a tank has cycled by testing the water you are looking for 0: Ammonia 0:Nitrite 20 or less: Nitrate (at first you are just waiting for Nitrates to show up at all). You shouldn’t use strips to test you need to use liquid tests such as API Test Kits or an equivalent. I use the API freshwater master kit.

Now on the size, I would say 6inches max. You have to understand those goldfish get GIANT, and are very active fosh. They are pond fish not aquarium fish. They would need at least 40 gals a piece, but in a realistic setting at least 4 foot long tanks that is also at least 18in wide, with at least 60 gallons of water. They enjoy room to swim side to side much more than they like water depth.

Goldfish are temperate but they can be okay with a low-mid 70F s tanks. Goldfish are very hardy fish so as long as you keep your water parameters healthy and the tank large enough you should be in the clear. Chillers are EXTREMELY expensive and not realistic to many beginner hobby aquarist. I second the idea of a small fan to keep the air stirred would be a good DIY way of keeping things cooler. I know we all strive to provide the best environment for our fish but we have to do so practically.

 

So you’re saying without the heater the water still stays too warm?
Thank you 75 gallon Discus Tank, I did forget to mention you will need sufficient ammonia to cycle the tank, the easiest being uneaten fish food. You can also purchase pure ammonia.

You will know a tank has cycled by testing the water you are looking for 0: Ammonia 0:Nitrite 20 or less: Nitrate (at first you are just waiting for Nitrates to show up at all). You shouldn’t use strips to test you need to use liquid tests such as API Test Kits or an equivalent. I use the API freshwater master kit.

Now on the size, I would say 6inches max. You have to understand those goldfish get GIANT, and are very active fosh. They are pond fish not aquarium fish. They would need at least 40 gals a piece, but in a realistic setting at least 4 foot long tanks that is also at least 18in wide, with at least 60 gallons of water. They enjoy room to swim side to side much more than they like water depth.

Goldfish are temperate but they can be okay with a low-mid 70F s tanks. Goldfish are very hardy fish so as long as you keep your water parameters healthy and the tank large enough you should be in the clear. Chillers are EXTREMELY expensive and not realistic to many beginner hobby aquarist. I second the idea of a small fan to keep the air stirred would be a good DIY way of keeping things cooler. I know we all strive to provide the best environment for our fish but we have to do so practically.

Thanks for all the help my tank has gone down in temperature since I unpluged my heater so it looks like I won't need the fan but I will keep an eye on it when I go test the water. Thanks again!