New starter to saltwater.

simo83
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HI guys and thanks for looking at my post.
Right then I have a jewl lido 120 (120ltrs) is that sutable for 2 clown fish live rock, yellow tang and invert?? I also have a fluval 205 external filter and a uv sterilizer, a aquac proteine skimmer. will I be ok with this ?? I love fish and just got into the hobby of it I have had my tro fish for 4 months now and had no probs at all so I think I must be doing ok. Just really want marine fish now so any help and what to do would be great.

p.s love the colours the mirine world trully brillent can't wait to have my tank looking like it also should I buy BIO-Spira - For Quick Aquarium Cycle??

thanks peps.
simon
 
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atmmachine816
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Yes that should be suitable, just check on the clown and tang but almost positive they can be together. Make sure the clowns pair off or they may fight. The fluval you can just run for extra water movement and put extra live rock rubble in it and keep it in case you want to run carbon. You can also run rowaphos or other phosphate remover to help keep algae down. your going to want powerheads also, test kit, refractometer or hydrometer and other things. Saltwater isn't something you just jump into you have to do a lot of research. As for the bio-spira I wouldn't worry about it, chances are you wil get cured live rock and you cycle will be shortlived and no need for it.
 
simo83
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Thanks, I am looking at maxijet x2 power heads at the mo. for the advise
 
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simo83
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I have a ph tset kit liquid also nitrate and nitrite. hydrometer coming soon and have read loads about the sw fish so much my head hurt ha ha, I am loking forward to it how long should I have m live rock I the tank befor I introduce fish ?
 
atmmachine816
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Thanks, I am looking at maxijet x2 power heads at the mo.  for the advise
type? You want 20x your tank volume, so for a 20 gallon tank at least 400gph in powerheads

I have a ph tset kit liquid also nitrate and nitrite. hydrometer coming soon and have read loads about the sw fish so much my head hurt ha ha, I am loking forward to it how long should I have m live rock I the tank befor I introduce fish ?
You want a ammonia test also. If you can I would get a refractometer, more accurate and last much longer. If the Live rock is cured then probably not long, best thing to do is keep testing and wait for the ammonia to go up, then nitrite, then both of those to go to zero and maybe nitrates to 5
 
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Mike
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120 liters is approx 30 gallons and is/will be too small for the yellow tang. As far as compatibility goes, should be no problem. For fish, I'd just get a tank bred ocellaris clown, or a pair of the tank bred ocellaris clowns for your size tank.
 
simo83
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no what I ment was I'm getting 2 x high powered maxI jet lol, also mike can I put an enanome in the tank and could I put cleaner fish and crabs in it? also what price would u pay for live rock in £ isd u can thanks guys
 
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Mike
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For most anemone species you need high intensity lighting, a stable, long established tank and supplemental feedings.  They can be quite difficult to keep.  The bubble tip anemone is one of the hardier anemones (e. quadricolor). 

Not sure on the conversion you need for US dollars to your currency.  I'd pay anywhere from $4 to $7 per pound for highly porous live rock, like FijI Rock.  The base rock (less porous) goes for less per pound.

Also, please use the spell check before posting (it's under the textbox when typing in a reply, very near the "Post" button) - your posts are kinda hard to read.

Thanks,
Mike
 
Mike
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As far as the cleaner fish and crabs go, depends on which species you're talking about.
 
simo83
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ah OK sorry, um I was hoping for some suggestions from your self or other members one what would be the best for my tank, do u think I could have a gobby in there also. as I am now thinking of a clown fish gobbys and a anemone also cleaning shrimp etc.
 
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Miss Mouse
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HI Ursell,
you normally pay between £10 and £12 a kilo for live rock. When you get it have a good smell of it - it shouold smell like clean sea water - if there's any nasty odour around it it won't be cured. Also regarding the anemone - definitely wait a while! You could do yourself a big favour and buy ready mixed water from the local aquarium and if you can get hold of some live sand that has come out of aother tank that will help with cycling.
Good luck! rememeber - take things slow and do a lot of reading before you get anything!
 
simo83
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ok cool thanks miss mouse
 
simo83
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anyone recommend a power head, and what size I should get??? I have a 120ltr (30gal) ???
 
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Miss Mouse
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I have 2 maxijets 1200's in my 40 gallon It's purely down to personal taste and finances but my maxi's have done very well and I would definitely recommend them.
 
simo83
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OK thanks I just got some t5 lighting to so setting that up asoon as I move into my new home then I'm doing the new tank then, also is it worth me getting base rock for my tank as its a high tank it would cost a lot to completely fill it with live rock (even tho I'm going for about 15kg of it, would it be OK to use and will it then go diff colour like the live rock ???
 
atmmachine816
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Yes base rock will color up with coraline algae and others given the right requirements. How tall is your tank?
 
simo83
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my tank is 23 inches high 23.5 inches wide and 15 inches in length, how much live rock do u think I need mate?? o yeah my refractometer came today to from hong Kong lol. do you guys know how much and what a stable salt level is please
 
atmmachine816
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I keep my sg at 1.024 which is a good sg to keep it at. 17-20kilos would be a good number to shoot for. Some rock will be lighter than others and take up more room so it all depends on the type of rock you get, I have a lot because most of my rock is light and porous.
 
simo83
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Ah right so u can get lighter and more poures live rock then that's good what would be the best to get ATM?? also I'm thinking of getting 2 x 900 maxijet power heads
 
simo83
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so when do I start using the skimmer guys stright away? I also have a fluval 205 do I need a bio wheel??
and how long do I leave the normal and t5 lights on for and do I switch em off at night?? there going to be on a timer switch eg 9am to 9pm mon-sun
 
agsansoo
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More pores that live rock has, the better for bio-filtration. Solid base rock does nothing to ad biological filtration ...! As for powerheads, Maxi-Jet 900's @ 230gph (870lph) = 460gph (1740lph) is around 15X water flow. That's good to start with, later you can increase this if you get algae blooms.
 
simo83
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ok ill get 2 x 1200 maxI to be safe thanks for that can u read my last post and help if ya can mate
 
agsansoo
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so when do I start using the skimmer guys stright away? I also have a fluval 205 do I need a bio wheel??
and how long do I leave the normal and t5 lights on for and do I switch em off at night?? there going to be on a timer switch eg 9am to 9pm mon-sun
If you already have a skimmer, starting now is OK. If you don't have one yet, start skimming after your tank has cycled (2-10 weeks).
 
agsansoo
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I also have a fluval 205 do I need a bio wheel??
and how long do I leave the normal and t5 lights on for and do I switch em off at night?? there going to be on a timer switch eg 9am to 9pm mon-sun
No you don't need a bio wheel !! Adds Nitrates to your water over time. Some people cycle lights on 12 hour cycles, some on 6hours cycles. I run my lights on a 10 hour on, 14 hours off (because it's getting hot here).
 
simo83
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ok thanks agsansoo, well I'm from wales uk, never gets hot hear lol thanks dude
 
atmmachine816
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If you buy fuly cured LR your cycle will be done very soon, but it also costs more.
 
simo83
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wicked atm thanks I just got some books now so going to read them soon as they come
 
simo83
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I don't need the fish until I haved cycled with the LR  do I ?? I know they may help but keep them out yeah?
also when the live rock is in will my tank then be a "reef tank"
 
atmmachine816
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Yes fish come after a cycle usually, though some people like to do fish cycle but I don't. Reef tank will come later. After your tank has matured at least a month better for two or three you can start adding basic corals. Then it's a ree
 
simo83
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ah right thanks for that mate
 
simo83
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umm maybe a silly question do I need to feed the live rock ?
 
atmmachine816
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Nope
 
simo83
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ok cool thaks for tha hay mike like the new style of the forums mate really nice and easy to navigate to thanks
 
simo83
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hello people, with my new tank (not set up yet) when I buy and install the power heads what is the best position for them?? 1200 maxijet
 
atmmachine816
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Have them in the corners angleing toward the center of the tank, I'll show you waht I mean tomorow. You don't want any dead spots.
 
simo83
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ok mate thank you
 
Mike
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HI Ursell glad you like the new forum look.
 
simo83
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yeah mike its really nice and easy on the eyes lol, o yeah thanks for the review on some marine books I just bought two now and found a lot out that I thought I knew already, would my 30gal tank be OK for 2 nemos 2 sea horses cleaner shrimp turbo snail nass snails anemone also siftinf star fish and a sea urchin, I will build there up after a few months tho, also I am going to cycle my tank for about 6 weeks is that long enough?, do I need a UV sterilizer to start off with as I am buying a water pur off ebay called aqua clear, it ionises the water to keep nitrite nitrate ammonia also all algue in line as well as helping out the fish with better immune system.
 
Howeyg
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you have to take good care of seahorses seeing as they take so slow to eat you will have to make sure they get food and the clowns don't eat it all
 
simo83
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ah right ok, that should be ok to do as I work shifts so I can moitor them and so can the mrs,just can't wait to move out now and set up my new tank, I have a 120ltr juwel how do I know how much salt to put in as it has the US instrucsions on the back and can't figure it out, and when I do water changes how do I know how much salt to put in that ??? any idea guys
 

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