30 Gallon Tank New rabbit snail clumsy and inactive

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So I've got a rabbit snail 2 weeks ago. I picked a small one thinking it will be younger, but now I think it might be small because there's something wrong with it. From day one it wasn't very active. Unlike other aquatic snails, this one is legit slow. And it's also quite clumsy - e.g. all it did for a whole day yesterday was trying to go up the glass, falling to the exact spot it started from, climbing up and then falling again. And talking about glass, that's the only surface I see it climbing on. It doesn't graze on any rocks, wood or plants that could have something for it to eat. I've never seen it go for any bottom feeder food either. It's either just lying on the bottom, or climbing up glass, slowly and clumsily. I'm not entirely sure, but it might be that its foot is swollen?

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The tank is 30 gallons / 112 L, temperature is 76 F/ 24 C. Inhabited by 6 rosy barbs, 2 hillstream loaches, 5 small panda garras, and a variety of shrimps and snails, heavily planted. My ramshorn and trumpet snails are doing fine, but I did lose all of my apple snails in a period of a few months a couple of months ago. I haven't tested the water right now, but it is an established 1 year old tank and it never had any problems with parameters (last time tested a few weeks ago). The snail lost one feeler to the barbs before it learned to keep them tucked in, but usually that's not a problem to snails, right? So what could be its problem?
 

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StarGirl
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I just read a few things on other threads and maybe it doesnt like the gravel? Have you tested the water yet? I know Demeter and Renaissanista have had rabbits before or still do. Those are the ones I havent had any experience with.
Edit.....I keep reading they are sensitive to Ammonia and Nitrates. (not Nitrites). It needs to be zero.
 

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Renaissanista
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Hi
It looks better than some of mine that I purchased, who have lasted several years now.
It is not behaving too unusually for a rabbit. They are clumsy and do take breaks from moving around a while.Sometimes my younger snails feed on the bottom gunk rather than whole pieces. They aren't wall climbers for the most part. Too clumsy and heavy. They maybe spend 25% of time on the wall, especially older ones because the shell is heavy.
Try adding some cooked squash, cucumber or kale. Kale is healthiest but they love squash and cucs.

They like it warm, around 80F. 78F is probably ok. Gravel was never a big problem for my rabbits.

I'm guessing the pestering from the Barb may be a bigger issue than you think. He may be dropping from caution, reacting to m9vement aroujd him and instinctively going in his shell hastily. He may just not be used to your crowd yet.

I really feel my rabbits do well because they have no stress from fish. I don't really think they much like my cherry shrimp either.lol

It won't kill him, but can stress him and keep him from coming out often as he normally would
Not sure if you can provide a little protection.


I love Amquel Plus water conditioner because it also detoxes ammonia.
It makes me look good because I don't think I'd be near as successful at this shrimp/snail breeding without it!



Here's how I look at it with fish and snails. What if I had to worry, every time I went outside, that a crow was gonna swoop down and pull some of my hair out?
It wouldn't kill me, but I sure would think twice about going outside. Might even make me agoraphobic. Thus the term, come out of your shell.

Well, I could wear a hat, but I'm not saying crows wouldn't still make me nervous.
 
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Edit.....I keep reading they are sensitive to Ammonia and Nitrates. (not Nitrites). It needs to be zero.
IDK what sources you are reading, my sources say "less than 10", which is how it always is in my tank.
They aren't wall climbers for the most part. Too clumsy and heavy. They maybe spend 25% of time on the wall, especially older ones because the shell is heavy.
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They like it warm, around 80F. 78F is probably ok. Gravel was never a big problem for my rabbits.
I was expecting about the same level of activity demonstrated by mystery snails of the same size. But I guess the foot of a rabbit snail is proportionally smaller and not as good at carrying its weight. My snail seems to have some issues with gravel - when it tries to move along it, it just seems to grab a footfull of stones, but can't pull its weight across it, keeps sort of skidding. I have read articles about them prefering sand over gravel before getting it, but they were only saying that the snail likes to burrow itself into sand, none of them said it won't be able to move across gravel! Logically, it should be able climb rocks and wood at least as well as it climbs glass, but for some reason it just doesn't. There's lots of algae on rocks, so it could get a snack there, but it just keeps climbing on clean glass that has nothing to eat. I don't know, it's been a huge disappointment so far. Here's a photo of my tank, maybe you can tell whether I should keep the snail, because whatever it is with it is the snail's problem, or is my tank simply not suitable for it and I should give it away before it starves to death.
 

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Renaissanista
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It's good that he is active.
There is algae on even clean looking glass most of the time.
Not sure. I'd worry more if he went into his shell and didn't come out.

He may also need time to adjust.
I had 100 rabbit snails in an all gravel bottom tank and they bred like crazy and were very happy. I moved them to a river rock bottom tank for other reasons. They are happy there too.
Try giving him cooked zucchini or kale. They love getting fresh food. They dont eat a lot of fish food and algae alone isn't enough.
I think if he was really stressed, he'd be in his shell most of the time.
He'll fall when he climbs, that's normal. They do like the glass, just like other snails, but they can't climb as well.

I don't think you have to give him up just yet.
 

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