New breeding tanks!

KyAndre
  • #1
Hello guys! So I wanted to create this thread in hopes of letting you follow my new breeding project!
I am starting with a 29, 30, 65, 10 and 2 5's
So here are my ideas, let me know what you think, as I am willing to take suggestions
65- tropical tank
10-12 mollies
10-12 guppies
10-12 platys
5-6 Bristle nose plecos (in hopes of breeding)
Clown loaches (possibly)

29 & 30
1 pair of convicts in each

10 - grow out tank for tropical fish

5- shrimp and planted tank
5- female betta tank (for future breeding purposes)

I'm also looking into a 155 gallon,
What would you guys suggest I breed in this tank?
Oscars??
 
BluMan1914
  • #2
Anders247, should be able to help with your stocking.
My concern with what you want is that the 65 will get over populated with fry. The Clown Loaches will eventually outgrow the 65.
With the 29..it may not be big enough for a pair of Convicts. Just one may be ok..but let Anders247 be the judge on that.
The 5 gallon planted shrimp tank should be fine.
The other 5 gallon is fine for one female, but personally I would go with at least a 10 for breeding, and it would have a lot of plants for hiding.
 
KyAndre
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
I'm not doing betta breeding until later on, I don't have the proper space for all of the fry right now. I have many pet stores I will be able to supply so I will be removing fry in smaller grow out tanks and then selling them.
I will constantly be removing adults to sell them.
I read 20 gal minimum for breeding convicts, I might end up purchasing larger tanks for fry if needed (I'm sure it will be)

I also have a 40 gallon tall that I use as a center piece to my living room, it's my own personal tank, however I could end up using it if needed
 
BluMan1914
  • #4
I've had Convicts breed in a 20L community without trying. I could never get them past the free swimming stage, they wouldn't eat. But looking back, I know that I was nowhere prepared for fry. They breed every couple of months. Also you may need a sponge filter for when they do breed. UT om sure you already know ow this.
 
Anders247
  • #5
Rather than clown loaches do kuhlI or zebra.
 
TexasDomer
  • #6
Hello guys! So I wanted to create this thread in hopes of letting you follow my new breeding project!
I am starting with a 29, 30, 65, 10 and 2 5's
So here are my ideas, let me know what you think, as I am willing to take suggestions
65- tropical tank
10-12 mollies
10-12 guppies
10-12 platys
5-6 Bristle nose plecos (in hopes of breeding)
Clown loaches (possibly)

29 & 30
1 pair of convicts in each

10 - grow out tank for tropical fish

5- shrimp and planted tank
5- female betta tank (for future breeding purposes)

I'm also looking into a 155 gallon,
What would you guys suggest I breed in this tank?
Oscars??
I'd choose one species to breed at a time - I think you'll find even that is overwhelming. Are you trying to make money or breed for fun?

Unless you have unique or sought-after patterns in your mollies, guppies, or platies, you'll have a hard time finding homes for them. I wouldn't choose those to breed.

Convicts are also very plentiful, as they breed readily. Same with BNs.

I would invest in a few good pairs of killifish or dwarf cichlids or gobies or uncommon plecos or something less common than livebearers, BNs, or convicts. There are plenty of those to go around.

You'll definitely need many more grow out tanks for sure - a single 10 gal won't cut it. I'd get more breeding tanks before you get more fish to breed.

If you really want to breed the common fish:

A 40 gal would be better for the convicts.

No clown loaches in the 65 - they need a tank twice that size.

For the BNs, a single pair will do, and you'll quickly be overrun with babies.

Instead of getting a pair of oscars for the 155 gal, you could use that as a grow out tank for the plecos and the livebearers and convicts (split the tank).
 
KyAndre
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
Okay,
Yes I have sponge filters.
I was thinking convicts because they breed easily
 
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KyAndre
  • Thread Starter
  • #8
My phone didn't allow me to finish,
I think the 155 idea might be good as a growout tank!
 
TexasDomer
  • #9
Okay,
Yes I have sponge filters.
I was thinking convicts because they breed easily
They're also very common though, and might be difficult to sell/rehome because they are so plentiful.
 
KyAndre
  • Thread Starter
  • #10
I already have confirmed with pet stores that they will allow me to supply them
 
TexasDomer
  • #11
I already have confirmed with pet stores that they will allow me to supply them
Good!

I might do the convicts in the 65 gal (alone) and use the 29, 30, and 155 for grow outs.
 
KyAndre
  • Thread Starter
  • #12
Sounds good
 
KyAndre
  • Thread Starter
  • #13
Alright guys! Update, I'm beginning to cycle my 30 gallon tonight! Could I use my male betta to begin this cycle?
 
TexasDomer
  • #14
Alright guys! Update, I'm beginning to cycle my 30 gallon tonight! Could I use my male betta to begin this cycle?
Why not do a fishless cycle?
 
KyAndre
  • Thread Starter
  • #15
Because I typically always cycle with fish, plus my betta would probably enjoy the freedom
 
TexasDomer
  • #16
Because I typically always cycle with fish, plus my betta would probably enjoy the freedom
It's just more stressful and less safe for him to be in a cycling tank. Fishless cycles are easy and safe. You should consider it!
 
SSJ
  • #17
So I've decided to setup a breeding tank for my guppies. Its a smaller one, few 4-5 litres. Will use water from my already cycled tank (nitrite 0, ammonia 0-0.25) and will put some plants and lake weed.
My question is, do I Mandatorily need an air stone for aireation?? Or can they survive without it??
 
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TexasDomer
  • #18
Why are you using such a small tank? I would not use that for adult guppies, and it's too small to grow out fry for very long too.
 
SSJ
  • #19
Why are you using such a small tank? I would not use that for adult guppies, and it's too small to grow out fry for very long too.
That's all I got my friend as far as an extra tank is concerned, though it wil not have more than 4 fish in it. I'm just concerned about the air stone... I did see some vids where people are breeding with just plants in tubs etc..was curious if that can be done in a tank
 
Dan12boy
  • #20
Same thought here. That would be way too small to breed them

You could at least buy a large tupperware that would be okay and the air pump isn't really needed but it's safer
 
SSJ
  • #21
You could at least buy a large tupperware that would be okay and the air pump isn't really needed but it's safer
Tupperware sounds good..what would be an optimal size ...rough idea?
 
TexasDomer
  • #22
I would get a 10-20 gal tub-like storage container.
 
Dan12boy
  • #23
Sorry meant to say a tote
A 5 gallon should be okay or a large tub
If you filter the water there basically be no need to use an air pump
 
SSJ
  • #24
Sorry meant to say a tote
A 5 gallon should be okay or a large tub
If you filter the water there basically be no need to use an air pump
How about a large bucket. Stuffed with plants...pretty much like a natural habitat
 
Dan12boy
  • #25
It's the length we're looking at not the depth and buckets are more deep than long
 
cody2posh
  • #26
Well everyone else beat me to it, but yeah that's way too small.

Also no just plants will not work. Contrary to popular belief, it's not an air stone that airates the water, it's the motion at the water's surface that mediates oxygen exchange. As long as the water is moving you don't necessarily need an air stone.
 
SSJ
  • #27
It's the length we're looking at not the depth and buckets are more deep than long
Then I would go with a tub. I believe it can be placed outside, but temp might drop once it rains..then I need to heat it up..right?
 

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