New bettas purchased online, and issue with new shrimp

RSBettas
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I recently purchased a betta breeding pair online, from Demeter! I have never trusted buying online before, but I spent some time talking to Demeter and just had to buy. The fish came in perfectly healthy, and seemingly stressless. They are currently in their new homes, and I plan to breed them soon.
I would highly suggest buying bettas from Demeter if you are searching for a reputable breeder.
(I love naming my bettas...)
The male is Edwardo and the female is Gerda.
As for my shrimp, does anyone know why my male betta was chasing all of them? I bought nine shrimp in total, and they are alone in a planted 10 gallon tank. The male was once in there too, but I had to move him out since he was wearing himself out, while aggressively nipping at them. I have never had this issue, so advice is helpful.
Thanks in advance!

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smileyshrimp
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Bettas are notorious shrimp eaters, some are chill with them, some are not. If they are its just they like hunting them, can't do too much about that.
 

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RSBettas
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  • #3
Oh well, guess he doesn't get shrimp mates...
It's fine though, I'm selling him anyways.
Thanks for the advice!
 
aquanata
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I recently purchased a betta breeding pair online, from Demeter! I have never trusted buying online before, but I spent some time talking to Demeter and just had to buy. The fish came in perfectly healthy, and seemingly stressless. They are currently in their new homes, and I plan to breed them soon.
I would highly suggest buying bettas from Demeter if you are searching for a reputable breeder.
(I love naming my bettas...)
The male is Edwardo and the female is Gerda.
As for my shrimp, does anyone know why my male betta was chasing all of them? I bought nine shrimp in total, and they are alone in a planted 10 gallon tank. The male was once in there too, but I had to move him out since he was wearing himself out, while aggressively nipping at them. I have never had this issue, so advice is helpful.
Thanks in advance!
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My bettas hunt & kill shrimp as well as pest snails. I buy feeder shrimp for them now when I have the opportunity, being careful to remove escapees who outgrow the betta. Large ghost shrimp will menace bettas & attempt to nip fins.

I also keep a separate tank of pest snails for the puffer & bettas. Keeps the bettas entertained when they get fresh batches of shrimp & snails.
 
RSBettas
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Im selling the samurai male, but here my shrimp tank. I have already seen a few babies, but I think the parents are eating them. How do I prevent this? I have sand and fertilizer coming in. Should I get some grass seeds?
THe shrimp seem to really love the sponge filter
 

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aquanata
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I haven't kept RCS for very long but my tanks too are teeming with shrimplets. A quick search says that they will eat just-hatched babies. My ghost shrimp eat the majority of their eggs. It's a good question for the shrimp forum tho!

I'm unsure why you'd want to get grass seed unless you're thinking of a carpet? There are lots of aquatic carpet plants that given the right conditions may thrive & provide a great carpet for your shrimp but from my understanding, seeds sold for sowing in aquariums are a scam to be avoided. Personally, i use dwarf sag & dwarf rush as a kind of 'carpet'. Perhaps the folks in the live plants forum could give direction on carpets for feeding or hiding - whichever is your goal.

Your wee shrimp look great. Congrats on your shrimplets! Fingers crossed they find cover until they too are strapping, rosy adults. :)
 

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RSBettas
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I plan to turn this into a natural tank, and perhaps some carpet will keep the tank both beautiful, and the babies safe. Unfortunately, the rimless or nano tanks are way way way too expensive for me, so those are not an option. I have to stick with the black rimmed ones.
 
Blacksheep1
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I’ve had Monte Carlo do well and carpet in a low tech tank. For shrimp there’s easier ways for them to hide though, limnophilia sessiliflora grows fast ( eats nitrates too ) and is fine leaved enough the shrimp can hide happily and graze on it. Cholla wood works well too as does any kind of moss.

Did you mean the adult shrimp were eating the babies ? That’s never been my experience with neocaridina davidii like you have( cherries and orange rili , both neocaridina ). They are likely hiding after moulting rather than being eaten. Younger shrimp grow faster , therefor moult more often and so hide more. Most shrimp will hide more with fish in the tank.

Remember that pH, kh and gh are important for shrimp but if you’re within parameter ranges then successful moults will happen. They’d also love to eat some blanched green veggies for calcium and other minerals :)
 
aquanata
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I plan to turn this into a natural tank, and perhaps some carpet will keep the tank both beautiful, and the babies safe. Unfortunately, the rimless or nano tanks are way way way too expensive for me, so those are not an option. I have to stick with the black rimmed ones.
I wouldn't fret about the rimless tanks thing. I repair my own tanks & sometimes those of others. The blow outs on a rimless from what would be minor jostling on a rimmed tank can be spectacular & irreparable. I can't imagine protecting a rimless given a busy home & lots of animals.

Like you, I prefer natural tanks. Mine are dirted & over grown to what appears to be the delight of the animals. If I were skilled at aquascaping, interested in c02 & growing particular plant species, I might try a nano rimless. But thus far, my interest runs mostly to the animals & their needs. So val, dwarf grasses, floaters, rotala, java & lillies are my go to plants. I cave occasionally for unusual tissue cultures when I'm building up or re-planting a tank - one of today's tank tasks - but not often.

I don't think rimmed tanks are going to go out of style for dedicated animal keepers anytime soon. They're sturdy. Try some dwarf grass for a carpet. They're mostly hearty, spread rapidly & stay relatively small. The shrimp seem to love keeping them clean. I've just trimmed out a bunch in this tank to transfer to another so they're not the carpet they were a few days ago - but you can get the idea. This is dwarf marsh grass & when it gets going it provides thick, hardy carpeting. Good luck on new ventures.

Glad you've found a solution for your betta!
 

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RSBettas
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That is exactly the setup I'm thinking of. The advice is all super helpful.
 

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