New aquarium problem please help

Mikamuchi
  • #1
Hello I'm Michael I'm new to the forum and new to fish tanks and I am having an issue, I setup my tank about 5 days ago it was a complete aqueon 30 gallon with all aqueon accessories, I set the tank up washed the gravel thoroughly and added water and conditioner and washed decorations including a piece of driftwood I cleaned and boiled, the tank looked great after a few days clear and clean and ph tested around 7.3 so I took a sample to the fish store nearby and had him test the water as well, he said we should be good to add at most 2 fish so we went with a silver looking angel and a beautiful parrot (seen in my avatar) last night we fed them and they seemed to LOVE the tank setup and got along famously, today I turned on my tank lift and noticed the water looked like it had slight dust particles floating around in it and my angels wavy fins had white dust looking particles attached to it, is this dust that got caught in it or is this ick? I don't want to lose her so I'm trying to come up with a good idea of how to fix this if anyone knows how please help
 

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soarl
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5 days is not long enough to have your tank fully cycled. Read up on the Nitrogen Cycle. Look into getting TSS to cycle your tank or daily water changes with Prime until your tank is completely cycled.
 

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nammyle
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That really looks like ick, but any uncertainty is going to be put to rest in a day or two.
 
QQQUUUUAADDD
  • #4
It is probably ich. I would raise your temp to 86 1-2 degrees per hour and sustain that temp for 2 weeks. I would also do 50% water changes every other day to remove fallen-off ich spores.

On a side note, the parrot needs a bigger tank. At least a 55 gallon tank. Also, please read up on the nitrogen cycle. Understanding the nitrogen cycle is crucial for keeping a healthy tank. Purchase an API Freshwater Master Test Kit if you can. You want to be able to test your own water and not have the pet store employee test it for you. What they think is ok usually isn't.
 
hssea
  • #5
It looks like ich. Unfortunately pet stores don't employee people who know anything about aquariums. Before adding any fish you need to establish a bacterial bed that "eats" (if you will) the ammonia secreted by the fish. Ammonia in a tank is extremely lethal. There are articles under search about how to establish the nitrogen cycle. I would return the fish to the store for credit if possible, otherwise it will be difficult for you to establish your tank and save the fish. If you know someone who has a establish tank and can get some media (gravel, filter padding..etc that could speed it up for you). Sorry for the bad news, but you've found the right place for all the help you need. BTW when you say wash don't use soap for anything fish related, in fact buy a new bucket that has never been used with soap /cleaning products and mark it for aquarium use only. Also another must have is a API liquid test kit (must have) to monitor water chemistry...don't use the test strips they are very inaccurate . The test kit will cost you around 24.00 but lasts for years.
 
hssea
  • #6
I agree with qqquuuuuaarrrd on how to treat the ich. LOL....I was still typing as that was posted (slow typer). Anyway I would still talk to the store maybe after the ich clears they will take the fish back till you establish your aquarium. Est a aquarium takes a lot a patience it can take 6 plus weeks before its ready for a few fish.
 

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Mikamuchi
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
Would ick come from not getting the nitrogen cycle perfect? We will be getting a larger tank for our fish when they start getting larger this is just or starter, is there a way to brig the levels where I need it while keeping my fish inside the tank? What is the best way to do 50% water changes I will treat the angel for ick and try my best to save them the parrot seems unaffected by the way is this because he is more resilient to it?
 
soarl
  • #8
It is definitely a test of your patience. You really need to get on cycling that tank while clearing the Ich. It would suck to cure the Ich then have them die from toxic ammonia or nitrites.
 
hssea
  • #10
Would ick come from not getting the nitrogen cycle perfect? We will be getting a larger tank for our fish when they start getting larger this is just or starter, is there a way to brig the levels where I need it while keeping my fish inside the tank? What is the best way to do 50% water changes I will treat the angel for ick and try my best to save them the parrot seems unaffected by the way is this because he is more resilient to it?

The ich could have been at the store or from stress when moving. Both the Angel and parrot are not the easiet fish for a new tank.
 

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Mikamuchi
  • Thread Starter
  • #11
I am treating for ick tonight and doing some water changes tonight and during the week thanks for all the advice everyone
 
hssea
  • #12
Good luck . Don't forget to start increasing the tanks temp to kill the ick spores. Keep us updated
 
Siggi
  • #13
Don't increase the temperature too fast, or the fish may not adapt to the new temperature...
About one degree celsius every twelve hours.
Thermal ich-treatment may take a month...

Siphon the bottom every day to catch ich-spores that fall. This is important to break the dissemination cycle of the parasite.

Use Tetra SafeStart to get the nitrogen cycle started - follow instructions on label closely.
 
Eienna
  • #14
You cannot use SafeStart while thermal-treating for ich, because you can't change the water for two weeks with TSS. Since you'd be vacuuming the bottom every day for ich treatment anyway, vac'ing until you've removed at least 50% of the water (and replacing it) daily will help keep ammonia and nitrites at bay while you're getting rid of the ich. Read this article on the natural treatment of ich as it would work right in with getting your tank cycled.
https://www.fishlore.com/aquariumfishforum/threads/curing-ich-naturally.105665/
Try to treat with Seachem's Prime water conditioner when you change the water, as it will help to detox the ammonia and nitrites.
Sad to say, your angel may not make it through the cycling process; they are painfully sensitive to ammonia and nitrites.
 

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