New air stone. no bubbles

Nickguy5467

got a new air stone. this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VQQFQLK?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details the 4" one.

my pump is 4w like it says it needs. im using co2 grade tubing that i had spare. it said to put the stone in the water in 2 hours before use and i did that, so then i cut small portions of the line.

small line to valve then a small line between the flow valve or whatever and the check valve then the rest of the line from the check valve to the stone.

the line fills with air and gets pretty tight but nothing is coming from the stone and i gave it some time. im afraid if i give it any more without any bubbles something will pop off and break something T_T

i admit i dont know how old this pump is, but it seems to be working. im just not having any luck with air stones
 

PeterFishKeepin

perhaps get a plastic container with tap water and try in there that way glass will not break?
if you have a 2nd air pump try the stone and air line tubing on there and see if it works? if you dont ask an LFS to try it for you?
 

DoubleDutch

Try it first without the airstone connected.
 

Nickguy5467

Try it first without the airstone connected.
perhaps get a plastic container with tap water and try in there that way glass will not break?
if you have a 2nd air pump try the stone and air line tubing on there and see if it works? if you dont ask an LFS to try it for you?

yeah it works without the airstone ive actually been doing that for a few days since they werent working for some airation since i felth the filter flow wasnt enough . i was also searching online for relevant things. long story short. i unhooked the pump and blew into the line. bubbles came out the stone.a small amount but still some compare to none. so i guess its my pump. i mean it says its 4w which is required but i also dont know how old it is. still i find is strange that my lungs can push air through the stone but the pump cannot when i can feel the line filling with air.

guess i need to get a new pump that is 4w or more . maybe this one lost its power even though its labled at 4w. but i still confused how i could make it work with my breath but the pump could not.i mean i know i wouldnt be able to build up that preasure in the line with my breath.. could olny imagine the problems id have if i were using standar air line tubing (did that once with co2. was kinda funny)
 

PeterFishKeepin

ye i would try getting another air pump or try testing on a firends pump, spare pump or LFS pump if they allow.
 

Nickguy5467

ye i would try getting another air pump or try testing on a firends pump, spare pump or LFS pump if they allow.
sadly, my only fish friend is going on vacation this week lul so buying online and seeing is pretty much all i got unfortunately T_T air stone lottery >.>

but at least the problem was found. thanks guys
 

PeterFishKeepin

Best of luck i think just a more powerful pump might be needed, test in plastic container so airstone doesnt shoot of and break glass.
 

FinalFins

Seeing that this airstone and the previous didn't work, it sounds like a pressure issue. Just need a more powerful air pump, or check if the diaphragm is faulty or worn.
 

Nickguy5467

Seeing that this airstone and the previous didn't work, it sounds like a pressure issue. Just need a more powerful air pump, or check if the diaphragm is faulty or worn.
the what? like the why connector thing?
 

FinalFins

the what? like the why connector thing?
The thing that actually pumps the air. You would have to open the pump up to inspect it.
 

Nickguy5467

The thing that actually pumps the air. You would have to open the pump up to inspect it.
oh. i have no idea how old it is. i guess it was a hand me down i dont remember so i wouldnt doubt it was worn out

edit: what should i be looking for? i mean i ran it and the the metal thing vibrates but i dont know what to do with the information or the other parts lol


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Flyfisha

Be careful with electricity.

The part that wears out is often the bellows , ( diaphragm) the black rubber part. Unless it has a small crack or three the next bit to wear out is the motor. The motor means you toss all of it.
Even a new set of bellows is almost the cost of a new pump( in Australia) .

When you get a new pump you should consider researching a “bleed off “valve. It’s hard to explain but it’s an air line running through a tee piece that wastes the unused air and avoids back pressure. A tap is used to control the bleed off.

I am not your dad but be careful with electricity.
 

Nickguy5467

Be careful with electricity.

The part that wears out is often the bellows , ( diaphragm) the black rubber part. Unless it has a small crack or three the next bit to wear out is the motor. The motor means you toss all of it.
Even a new set of bellows is almost the cost of a new pump( in Australia) .

When you get a new pump you should consider researching a “bleed off “valve. It’s hard to explain but it’s an air line running through a tee piece that wastes the unused air and avoids back pressure. A tap is used to control the bleed off.

I am not your dad but be care with electricity.
lol thanks, i made sure to unplug it before actually touching anything
 

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