ecnaj143
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I just got a new 55gal tank. I already have 6 neon's, 2 Cherry Barbs, 2 Clown loachs and 1 platy. Anyother idea's of what else can go in there?? Thanks in advance.
He's a friend, he didn't lie, he has had them for 6 months in a 30gal, he's turning it into a salt water so he giving them to me. They have not grown since he's had them. You know, with all this inbreeding goin on, who knows what deffects happen. So stop acting like you know all about fish. I come in here to get some help, then everyone gets all touchy. It use to be a great site, but I think I'll go to a different site. Everyone here acts like they know all about fish, besides, ya'll are to sensitive when it comes to them. Their fish, stop acting like they need to be treated like a dog or cat.Boxermom said:There are no such thing as mini-clown loaches. You were lied to.
They have not grown because he has stunted them. Thus, they will die prematurely. Stunting happens when they are kept in tanks too small for them or in conditions that inhibit their growth. Their outside stops growing but the insides continue to grow, basically squashing the **** out of them from the inside. Its a very inhumane thing to do. If you don't trust my word on it, do some research. Look it up. You will find ZERO information on mini-clown loaches, because they don't exist, but you will find a plethora of information on stunting, the causes and the very negative effects, suchas premature death.ecnaj143 said:He's a friend, he didn't lie, he has had them for 6 months in a 30gal, he's turning it into a salt water so he giving them to me. They have not grown since he's had them.
Maybe not called mini, but there are small ones. Not all grow to be 12", so don't call someone a liar when you don't know everything.Boxermom said:They have not grown because he has stunted them. Thus, they will die prematurely. Stunting happens when they are kept in tanks too small for them or in conditions that inhibit their growth. Their outside stops growing but the insides continue to grow, basically squashing the **** out of them from the inside. Its a very inhumane thing to do. If you don't trust my word on it, do some research. Look it up. You will find ZERO information on mini-clown loaches, because they don't exist, but you will find a plethora of information on stunting, the causes and the very negative effects, suchas premature death.ecnaj143 said:He's a friend, he didn't lie, he has had them for 6 months in a 30gal, he's turning it into a salt water so he giving them to me. They have not grown since he's had them.
I'm sorry if you don't like what you are being told but I'm telling you the truth. There is no such thing as a minI clown loach. They grow 12 inches or more when properly cared for and live decades. Yours will live a small fraction of that due to beingn stunted. Yes, we are sensitive to mistreated creatures and fish are included in that. Fish should not have less of a status as pets than a cat or a dog, and if you are willing to provide the proper care for a cat or dog, you should be willing to do no less for your fish. To do otherwise is inhumane, unethical and irresponsible. I will never apologize for trying to educate someone on proper care of their fish, or for actually caring about my fish as much as I do for my dogs. Sorry, that's just not going to happen. Ever.
I have not heard of minI clowns either, but I think this thread has gone off track and not being productive anymore. Even if they are regular clowns, they could very comfortable live in that 55 gal. tank for quite awhile, which is almost twice as big as what they are in now. How about adding 4 more cherry barbs?Boxermom said:They have not grown because he has stunted them. Thus, they will die prematurely. Stunting happens when they are kept in tanks too small for them or in conditions that inhibit their growth. Their outside stops growing but the insides continue to grow, basically squashing the **** out of them from the inside. Its a very inhumane thing to do. If you don't trust my word on it, do some research. Look it up. You will find ZERO information on mini-clown loaches, because they don't exist, but you will find a plethora of information on stunting, the causes and the very negative effects, suchas premature death.ecnaj143 said:He's a friend, he didn't lie, he has had them for 6 months in a 30gal, he's turning it into a salt water so he giving them to me. They have not grown since he's had them.
I'm sorry if you don't like what you are being told but I'm telling you the truth. There is no such thing as a minI clown loach. They grow 12 inches or more when properly cared for and live decades. Yours will live a small fraction of that due to beingn stunted. Yes, we are sensitive to mistreated creatures and fish are included in that. Fish should not have less of a status as pets than a cat or a dog, and if you are willing to provide the proper care for a cat or dog, you should be willing to do no less for your fish. To do otherwise is inhumane, unethical and irresponsible. I will never apologize for trying to educate someone on proper care of their fish, or for actually caring about my fish as much as I do for my dogs. Sorry, that's just not going to happen. Ever.
Oh yes master of fish. You know all, I wish I knew as much as you. Your worng about that site, I have got plenty of good and accurate info from that site. I think you just don't want to admit your wrong.Boxermom said:Yes, I know the site and it is notoriously incorrect with lots of its information. They are all the same fish and are NOT minis or even small loaches. They are stunted.
Thank you, I think I will add 4 and some more neon's. I have ALOT of room, especially since its 55 long and the fish I have like the long.Gunnie said:I have not heard of minI clowns either, but I think this thread has gone off track and not being productive anymore. Even if they are regular clowns, they could very comfortable live in that 55 gal. tank for quite awhile, which is almost twice as big as what they are in now. How about adding 4 more cherry barbs?Boxermom said:They have not grown because he has stunted them. Thus, they will die prematurely. Stunting happens when they are kept in tanks too small for them or in conditions that inhibit their growth. Their outside stops growing but the insides continue to grow, basically squashing the **** out of them from the inside. Its a very inhumane thing to do. If you don't trust my word on it, do some research. Look it up. You will find ZERO information on mini-clown loaches, because they don't exist, but you will find a plethora of information on stunting, the causes and the very negative effects, suchas premature death.ecnaj143 said:He's a friend, he didn't lie, he has had them for 6 months in a 30gal, he's turning it into a salt water so he giving them to me. They have not grown since he's had them.
I'm sorry if you don't like what you are being told but I'm telling you the truth. There is no such thing as a minI clown loach. They grow 12 inches or more when properly cared for and live decades. Yours will live a small fraction of that due to beingn stunted. Yes, we are sensitive to mistreated creatures and fish are included in that. Fish should not have less of a status as pets than a cat or a dog, and if you are willing to provide the proper care for a cat or dog, you should be willing to do no less for your fish. To do otherwise is inhumane, unethical and irresponsible. I will never apologize for trying to educate someone on proper care of their fish, or for actually caring about my fish as much as I do for my dogs. Sorry, that's just not going to happen. Ever.