Neighbor’s Dog Killed By Coyote.

The sportsman stores hear have every urine you can think of. Lol. But yeah, WHO??

"Yeah please give me a gallon of Bigfoot-urine"

 

"Yeah please give me a gallon of Bigfoot-urine"

Lol, ok, not EVERY kind!

 

Sorry OP to wander of the on-topic-path.
But this is soooo not imaganable in our country I had to.

 

Sorry OP to wander of the on-topic-path.
But this is soooo not imaganable in our country I had to.

What, no coyotes or Bigfoot in Holland?

 

What, no coyotes or Bigfoot in Holland?

No and no selling of urine of any kind animal.

 

Animal urine is actually commonly used for trapping.

There happens to be a bottle of coyote urine in my garage right now. Lol

 

We have a very new Wolf pack that just established here daddy, mama, jr, now baby , someone shot the daddy and there is a lot of upset people here because the rangers said it will make the pack come closer because they no longer have their provider

 

I am very sorry about your friend the dog!!! That's not a nice way for a pet to die. We have coyotes around here but they stay out behind the chicken houses and eat dead chickens that we put out to compost!! I kinda enjoy listening to them bark at night.

 

People forget that the outdoors is shared by other animals, you gotta be cautious.

 

Animal urine is actually commonly used for trapping.

Ahhhh I see : No trapping here. No animals to be trapped.

On second thought : Most dangerous animal here are ticks carrying Lyme disease.

 

That happened to my neighbors dog. That's so sad. In Ohio, as long as you have a hunting permit, there’s no laws as to when you can shoot those nasty things. Needless to say many of us would fire if on our property. It’s sad and all because technically they were living here first, but survival of the fittest.

We can shoot em here too. They aren't game they're pests. I still love them even if they wreak damage.
So sad about that pup
Perhaps the coyotes are being pushed out or at a loss of food.

If it was a small dog it makes sense, a big one.. That's a brave coyote..
It's always unfortunate when wild animals make it into 'human' territory and cause deaths like that, it's bad for the people and the aninals. Sometimes that leads to a county opening fire on them to 'control the population' which is really already diminishing.

 

We have had a major drop of strat cats and increase in missing cats in our town due to foxes. They have come right into the main part of the city and made it home. So yeah, it happens :/

Yeah, a Fox got ahold of my cat a few years back. My cat somehow got away and we took it to the vet, but the meds they gave her killed her :/

 

The problem with Coyotes is their range has been spreading over the years, with them being an opportunistic predator most small animals aren't safe. Even some larger dogs are in danger if there's more then one coyote around hunting. With their range expanding into more urban areas they are also loosing their fear of man, just like bears trash cans are associated with food for them.

I find part of this amusing.

"With their range expanding into urban areas"
You mean
The areas they were long ago pushed out of?

I could only imagine what the other animals would be saying about us.

"With their destructive behavior on the habitat and wildlife around them, they contiue to push against our homes, tearing them apart and pushing the dirt and rocks around like play sand, as some of us are lost in the defense of our territory, others run. Deeper into the woods, farther into areas we once didn't roam, pushing us and our abundant food source away from us, and then moving in with these strange creatures who only remotely resemble us. They make this awful sound, like clanging their mouths in a scream. They do it every time they see the humans and any time a wild animal goes past, just these weird canine creatures screaming for no reason, it's so weird.
Sometimes we try to play tricks on them, or we watch them through their cages while they yell at us. Then the human comes out with this weird bushy stick and chases us away. I can't believe they put their giant weird warm cave on top of our cave! What happened to my favorite tree?? They keep expanding into our areas taking our trees! How do you just take something that big?"

 

I have seen a wolf dog before and it was huge. I believe it was half wolf and half malmute. They are actual illegal but people still have them, but I am pretty sure a coyote would not be able to kill one.

 

I have seen a wolf dog before and it was huge. I believe it was half wolf and half malmute. They are actual illegal bit people still have them, but I am pretty sure a coyote would not be able to kill one.

They're actually not illegal in most places
You don't even need a license for a dangerous animal like you do with a big reptile(sometimes) or a wild big cat.

My pup was a wolf mix, in fact there's hundreds of wolf mixes around my city.

Yeah. Coyote would more likely be hunted by a very wolfy mix. But a puppy like mix would more want to play with it. My dog was a weird mix, she was puppy in the sense she loved bonding and playing, but wolf in the sense she was only slightly tame. She wasn't vicious, but she was head strong and independent. Seen in malamutes anyway.
She has many wolf like features including her coat, it was coarse, not like a dogs.
It didn't act like other animals fur either.

It's still possible for a team to kill my dog, but not likely as she is faster and more agile than they.
They're not as small nor built for running like she is.
And it's still possible for coyots to even be bigger than her, but definitely not taller. She was small, not as big as a beefy pure malamute. She was a slender muscular beast.
Jumping 5 feet up from a sitting position.
She perfectly scaled all fences and could outrun cars even.
Quite an amazing animal.

Very fun to own!
You just have to be careful with ones who are more wolfy, they can get so headstrong they don't see you as an owner or companion.
That's when they become dangerous and illegal to own.
At that point there are a lot of wolf sanctuaries around who will take hybrid dogs.

My dog could eat through metal... She could not be caged!

 

cocker spaniel is still too small for a coyote? But they gotta weigh almost the same size right? I doubt a coyote could kill a Rottweiler or a German Shepherd or even a fully grown Labrador retriever.

That's what I was thinking. I used to train in the Mojave desert, and used to see them all the time. They're small dogs, lol.

 

They're actually not illegal in most places
You don't even need a license for a dangerous animal like you do with a big reptile(sometimes) or a wild big cat.

My pup was a wolf mix, in fact there's hundreds of wolf mixes around my city.

Yeah. Coyote would more likely be hunted by a very wolfy mix. But a puppy like mix would more want to play with it. My dog was a weird mix, she was puppy in the sense she loved bonding and playing, but wolf in the sense she was only slightly tame. She wasn't vicious, but she was head strong and independent. Seen in malamutes anyway.
She has many wolf like features including her coat, it was coarse, not like a dogs.
It didn't act like other animals fur either.

It's still possible for a team to kill my dog, but not likely as she is faster and more agile than they.
They're not as small nor built for running like she is.
And it's still possible for coyots to even be bigger than her, but definitely not taller. She was small, not as big as a beefy pure malamute. She was a slender muscular beast.
Jumping 5 feet up from a sitting position.
She perfectly scaled all fences and could outrun cars even.
Quite an amazing animal.

Very fun to own!
You just have to be careful with ones who are more wolfy, they can get so headstrong they don't see you as an owner or companion.
That's when they become dangerous and illegal to own.
At that point there are a lot of wolf sanctuaries around who will take hybrid dogs.

My dog could eat through metal... She could not be caged!

I should have specified I believe they are illegal in Alaska where I live.

 

That's what I was thinking. I used to train in the Mojave desert, and used to see them all the time. They're small dogs, lol.

29 Palms by chance?

 

29 Palms by chance?

I don't recall. It might have been. I traveled to so many places, I can't remember the exact location. We went from AK to WA, and to CA. This was back in 2010-2011 I believe.

 

I don't recall. It might have been. I traveled to so many places, I can't remember the exact location. We went from AK to WA, and to CA. This was back in 2010-2011 I believe.

Ok, just curious, that’s where my son was stationed, same time period! A lot of coyotes!

 

Ok, just curious, that’s where my son was stationed, same time period! A lot of coyotes!

Oh no, I was never stationed there. There's a huge training area there that we had to go to in preparation for deployment. Kind of miss it.

 

Oh no, I was never stationed there. There's a huge training area there that we had to go to in preparation for deployment. Kind of miss it.

Yes, there was also a huge nearby area for his deployment training. Like an Afghan village. Lol

...Must mention coyotes to keep this on topic lol. There were coyotes!

 

Like an Afghan village

Yes, that must be it then! Indeed lots of coyotes, lol. I don't recall ever seeing a road runner though.

 

Yeah, a Fox got ahold of my cat a few years back. My cat somehow got away and we took it to the vet, but the meds they gave her killed her :/

 

I'm sorounded on 3 sides by the largest state game lands in Pennsylvania. So yea we have all the creatures. Coolest was a pic one of our drivers showed me while they were working on my road. It showed the front of a dump truck a mountain lion and in the corner was my garage. Yep I recognised the area. Lol. We worry more about the bear to be honest. He liked the neighbors chickens which Unfornatly are about 10 feet from house. He's in the front yard in the morning quite often. We just can't have outside animals.

 

When we lived in a semi-rural area near Santa Cruz we came home from work one day and found all our geese and German shepherd dead. We thought it was probably a bobcat, but never found out for sure. I can understand if a wild animal is hungry it's going to eat, but this was senseless slaughter. The dog was in a penned area and posed no threat, the geese were in another. It could've grabbed a goose easy and been its way.

 

Coyotes and wolves are exactly why we hunt. I can’t stand my stock being taken down by those suckers.

 

I find it hard to believe a German Sheperd getting killed by a coyote. It has to be some other animal.

 

Man’s infiltration and subsquent annihilation of indigenous species has created some behaviors from wild animals that would otherwise not be natural.

My heart breaks when a jogger is killed on a hiking path and they hunt down and kill the mountain lion that killed her. Or the villager trampled by an elephant is destroyed. Is that right?

Its a moral dilemma that's easy to see from a thousand miles away...but when its your own loved ones, how would you react?

In my own mind, the coyote only killed a dog, yes, a beloved dog, and yes, it was just a coyote...not endangered. Is it ok to hunt it down?

What if has been an endangered mountain lion and it killed a child? Your child? Mine?

 

Man’s infiltration and subsquent annihilation of indigenous species has created some behaviors from wild animals that would otherwise not be natural.

My heart breaks when a jogger is killed on a hiking path and they hunt down and kill the mountain lion that killed her. Or the villager trampled by an elephant is destroyed. Is that right?

Its a moral dilemma that's easy to see from a thousand miles away...but when its your own loved ones, how would you react?

In my own mind, the coyote only killed a dog, yes, a beloved dog, and yes, it was just a coyote...not endangered. Is it ok to hunt it down?

What if has been an endangered mountain lion and it killed a child? Your child? Mine?

If it killed a child, then bye bye mountain lion, endangered or not. It doesn't even have to be a child I know.

As for the coyote killing a dog, it depends I think. If it was a single incident in forever, then maybe not.

 

When we lived in a semi-rural area near Santa Cruz we came home from work one day and found all our geese and German shepherd dead. We thought it was probably a bobcat, but never found out for sure. I can understand if a wild animal is hungry it's going to eat, but this was senseless slaughter. The dog was in a penned area and posed no threat, the geese were in another. It could've grabbed a goose easy and been its way.

Oh I would hate to come home to that. So sad!

 

I guess were lucky in australia we don't have any coyotes bears or other animals like that.

Our animals are just so safe and cuddly. Its not like everything in australia wants to kill you. Just 80% can kill you and 20% wants to but cant.

 

Man’s infiltration and subsquent annihilation of indigenous species has created some behaviors from wild animals that would otherwise not be natural.

My heart breaks when a jogger is killed on a hiking path and they hunt down and kill the mountain lion that killed her. Or the villager trampled by an elephant is destroyed. Is that right?

Its a moral dilemma that's easy to see from a thousand miles away...but when its your own loved ones, how would you react?

In my own mind, the coyote only killed a dog, yes, a beloved dog, and yes, it was just a coyote...not endangered. Is it ok to hunt it down?

What if has been an endangered mountain lion and it killed a child? Your child? Mine?

I don't think I would kill the bear that killed my boyfriend.
Or lion whatever.
If anything I would hope we had enough money to relocate it to a place that it wouldn't be able to do this harm.

(Not to bring up the gorilla story but...)

If we are pushing animals out of their homes and they attack, sometimes out of fear, I don't feel we have the right to take their lives.
I'm kinda weird and hypocritical at times with my opinions, but that's only because my opinions differ based on very specific situations.

Just because a skunk is living under your shed because they tore down the forest doesn't mean you should posion it.. It may be more costly, but it's best for the environment to call an animal center who will relocate the animal.

I would rather the animal live away from humans than have the possibility to harm them or livestock.

I may at first want to kill it in anger, but I feel I would over come that and make the right decision.

After all, my boyfriend is a firefighter, what am I going to do? Put out the fire that killed him? It will already be out anyway. But it's not like doing that will do much good anyway.

I guess were lucky in australia we don't have any coyotes bears or other animals like that.

Our animals are just so safe and cuddly. Its not like everything in australia wants to kill you. Just 80% can kill you and 20% wants to but cant.

Mmmm kangaroo tastes good... Have you tried it? Lol

They get pretty beasty!

 

If a bear ate me, I'd want my girlfriend or partner to avenge my death with fire and brimstone, and I would do the same. Human lives matter infinitely more than animals.

 

Coyotes are pests. They are a risk to our livestock, our jobs. I will not hesitate to take the life of a coyote or wolf that poses a threat to my herds and cattle.

 

I find part of this amusing.

"With their range expanding into urban areas"
You mean
The areas they were long ago pushed out of?

I could only imagine what the other animals would be saying about us.

"With their destructive behavior on the habitat and wildlife around them, they contiue to push against our homes, tearing them apart and pushing the dirt and rocks around like play sand, as some of us are lost in the defense of our territory, others run. Deeper into the woods, farther into areas we once didn't roam, pushing us and our abundant food source away from us, and then moving in with these strange creatures who only remotely resemble us. They make this awful sound, like clanging their mouths in a scream. They do it every time they see the humans and any time a wild animal goes past, just these weird canine creatures screaming for no reason, it's so weird.
Sometimes we try to play tricks on them, or we watch them through their cages while they yell at us. Then the human comes out with this weird bushy stick and chases us away. I can't believe they put their giant weird warm cave on top of our cave! What happened to my favorite tree?? They keep expanding into our areas taking our trees! How do you just take something that big?"

Historically the Coyote was only native west of the MississippI River with the building of bridges across the river they have been able to expand to the east.

MOD EDIT: Image source: Coyote - Wikipedia

 

Man’s infiltration and subsquent annihilation of indigenous species has created some behaviors from wild animals that would otherwise not be natural.

My heart breaks when a jogger is killed on a hiking path and they hunt down and kill the mountain lion that killed her. Or the villager trampled by an elephant is destroyed. Is that right?

Its a moral dilemma that's easy to see from a thousand miles away...but when its your own loved ones, how would you react?

In my own mind, the coyote only killed a dog, yes, a beloved dog, and yes, it was just a coyote...not endangered. Is it ok to hunt it down?

What if has been an endangered mountain lion and it killed a child? Your child? Mine?

If an animal killed my child it would have to go. I would die trying to kill it. Normal mother behavior, just like all mama creatures.

Like you said it is very hard sometimes because we have invaded their space and why do we have the right.

 

A couple of months ago my brother ( he is nine so 4ft something) was taking out the trash when he came inside screaming cause he said there was a brown dog as tall as him next to the driveway. My dad and I grabbed some flashlights and went out to see if we could see it. All that happened was right after we came out we heard something BIG running through the woods and we found a print that was as big as my palm(my hands are pretty big) so we checked the chicken coops and thankfully he wasn’t digging in there but he digs in our neighbors. And the funny part was that I was letting the dogs out and my lab/Irish wolfhound would not go outside at all! But the pointer was like what ever I’ll just go mark up everything! Lol sorry you lost your what sounds like your neighborhood mascot.

Your brother is lucky. When my boyfriend and his sister were little they were playing outside. His sister was sitting next to the tree line and he was quite a ways away from her. He said he looked over and she was sitting in the dirt with her back to a wolf that was belly crawling towards her. It would crawl a bit towards her and then stop and then crawl some more. He said he just froze up and didn't know what to do because he knew it was about to get her, and then right when the wolf jumped up to grab her he just her a loud gun shot and the wolf dropped right there. He turned around and thankfully his uncle was standing on the porch with his rifle. Otherwise it would've been a whole other story.

 

If a bear ate me, I'd want my girlfriend or partner to avenge my death with fire and brimstone, and I would do the same. Human lives matter infinitely more than animals.

I can't say I agree with that statement.

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Historically the Coyote was only native west of the MississippI River with the building of bridges across the river they have been able to expand to the east.

Also with the invasion of humans in the west, and booming population, it's no wonder they felt they had to go farther east and south.
I wpuld go anywhere I could if something threatened my home. Even if it was a place I was considered a pest.
I'm not saying I wouldn't kill a coyote if it killed a special pet, or kill it in general, I like hunting, which is why I said some of my opinions are a bit hypocritical sometimes.
But I would use every part of the animal in some way, it's life wouldn't be taken purely for revenge or because it killed something I adore.

 

If a bear ate me, I'd want my girlfriend or partner to avenge my death with fire and brimstone, and I would do the same. Human lives matter infinitely more than animals.

I have to say it...depends on the human lolol .