Neglected Horse

Fanatic
  • #1
I just have seen enough with these people and how they treat their horse.
There's a family that owns a horse near me, and they do not care for it properly.
It has two bloody wounds both on the leg and on the forehead.

I have already emailed the HSUS about this and planning to call animal control.
This is gone on long enough, this horse shouldn't have to suffer because of the lack of care these people treat it with.
 

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Blitzar
  • #2
What county are you in? Depending on county laws, you could legally take the animal into your possession until Animal Control is contacted.
 

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Albifrons
  • #3
Definitely report them, people like that don't deserve animals. I hope that the horse gets taken from their custody and that it'll be okay.
 
Fanatic
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  • #4
What county are you in? Depending on county laws, you could legally take the animal into your possession until Animal Control is contacted.

I am in Tarrant County.
Definitely report them, people like that don't deserve animals. I hope that the horse gets taken from their custody and that it'll be okay.

Totally, it's really sad too.
 
Albifrons
  • #5
I am in Tarrant County.


Totally, it's really sad too.
Yeah, there's too much of this as well. Personally I feel like there should be stricter laws on owning animals in general. There's just too many people out there who do it wrong.
 
ValerieAdams
  • #6
Aww Thanks for caring so much and trying to get something done!
 

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Fanatic
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  • #7
Aww Thanks for caring so much and trying to get something done!

Thanks, I am trying.
It's horrible, here are just a few of his conditions.

- matted tail and hair
- patchy skin
- dried mud on body
- incomplete diet
- unwashed (if ever)
 
VeiltailKing
  • #8
I have horses, so I find this extremely unacceptable. If it is legal where you live you can take control of the poor animal until help arrives. The poor horse is probably starving to death.
 
Mcasella
  • #9
(I vote take the horse and rehome it somewhere far away to new owners, however contacting the authorities is the best you are currently going to be able to do beyond offering it food/water.)
 
Bryangar
  • #10
Did you do something about it?
 

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Nikki2577
  • #11
I used to see a lot of this when I used to own horses and it was so disturbing We actually took in some pretty beat up horses from the humane society. So happy there are places that are willing to step in and save these beautiful creatures.
 
Fanatic
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  • #12
(I vote take the horse and rehome it somewhere far away to new owners, however contacting the authorities is the best you are currently going to be able to do beyond offering it food/water.)
Did you do something about it?

I told my parents, they said not to get into it, but I told them how bad it was, and emailed the SPCA about it, and am trying my best.
The horse is fed, but it really needs a proper bath, washing of the wounds, and good bandages.
I last went to check on hi, before it got frigid outside and he was okay, there was hay to eat, and his wounds looked dry but somewhat healed, no worse at all.
 
Wraithen
  • #13
Next time I wouldnt bother with HSUS at all. They are an evil organisation with good commercials to dupe the public. Wish more people looked into them so they werent soaking up donations that could go to local humane societies.
 
Fanatic
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  • #14
Next time I wouldnt bother with HSUS at all. They are an evil organisation with good commercials to dupe the public. Wish more people looked into them so they werent soaking up donations that could go to local humane societies.

I just contacted the humane society of the united states
 

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wodesorel
  • #15
You need to contact your local humane agent for your county, they can operate out of many kinds of rescues, shelters and pounds but there will be only one organization per county who has them. If you don't have an active humane agent, then I believe the sheriff handles animal abuse issues. HSUS is a national joke, and outside of a few large cities where they operate as the county humane agent, they have no jurisdiction.

Horses are hard. Here in Ohio, so long as they have food and a lean-to, and have seen a vet in the past year if injured or thin, the horse is considered okay. It doesn't matter how filthy or thin they are, or if they live in a mud pit, or if they are sick, legally the state is not allowed to step in. We drive past two on the way to our vets and I have called on them several times because they live in an extremely tiny paddock that literally floods over when it rains, but because they have a tiny concrete patch to stand on in the corner and a tarp over it they are considered okay. It's heartbreaking.
 
Wraithen
  • #16
I just contacted the humane society of the united states
That's the same as HSUS. Theyre more likely to turn that horse to glue than to help.
 
VeiltailKing
  • #17
Where is this horse? You know it’s that time of year where leases end and new horses are bought, right? Well, guess who’s shopping again! Just kidding I’m looking at a jumper in Ohio next week. I hope this poor horse gets some much needed help.
 
Blitzar
  • #18
That's the same as HSUS. Theyre more likely to turn that horse to glue than to help.

The HSUS has been pretty great in my area. I think you're thinking of PETA (I'm still very angry about Maya).
 

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Wraithen
  • #19
No. You are likely confusing local humane societies with hsus. The ones that ran the sara mcloughlin commercials are bad new.
 
Fanatic
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  • #20
I got a response from the HSUS, and they said to call my local humane society next.
 
Blitzar
  • #21
No. You are likely confusing local humane societies with hsus. The ones that ran the sara mcloughlin commercials are bad new.
Aren't the Sara Mclachlan ads run by the ASPCA?
 
Annie59
  • #22
Ever think to ask the owners? Know one knows what's going on with the animal. Maybe they have had the vet over...probably the "wounds" your seeing don't need any medical care or they already got it shots and what not from a vet.
My point is ask them .Maybe ask in a way something like seeing if they would like for you feed or water it for them. Politley.
I had horses and we never bathed them. And yea they would get muddy but its almost impossible to keep one clean especially after you ride then brush them, first thing they would do is look for a muddy spot or just dirt and roll lol.
How well do you know them?
Do you Know what a proper diet is for a horse? Not being snippy but make sure of something before stirring up trouble is all
But unless you actually see abuse there is nothing you can do.
I saw some advised you to just take it, but beware that IS stealing.

Please don't take this in a bad way, that is not my intention.
 

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wodesorel
  • #23
It's a gamble to talk with the owners directly. Abusers doing it on purpose would lie. You're more likely to be screamed at and threatened then have an actual conversation even if they were good owners. If the horse is not being taken care of properly and they realize someone is on to them, they could move the horse to a different location or to a different part of the property that is not as easily observable, making it impossible for a humane agent to be able to report on the horse and gain access to it.

Humane agents exist for a reason. Please don't make their job harder! If it's a plainly viewable horse it's easy enough for them to drive by and check it out and decide what to do from there. We have had several cases of abuse locally where people who saw animal cop shows tried to get involved and made it worse. The abusive owners hid their horse/cattle/llama and then nothing could be done because the humane agents could not enter their property and the judges needed to see something like a photo to prove the animals needed help or had died before they could issue a warrant.
 
Annie59
  • #24
It's a gamble to talk with the owners directly. Abusers doing it on purpose would lie. You're more likely to be screamed at and threatened then have an actual conversation even if they were good owners. If the horse is not being taken care of properly and they realize someone is on to them, they could move the horse to a different location or to a different part of the property that is not as easily observable, making it impossible for a humane agent to be able to report on the horse and gain access to it.

Humane agents exist for a reason. Please don't make their job harder! If it's a plainly viewable horse it's easy enough for them to drive by and check it out and decide what to do from there. We have had several cases of abuse locally where people who saw animal cop shows tried to get involved and made it worse. The abusive owners hid their horse/cattle/llama and then nothing could be done because the humane agents could not enter their property and the judges needed to see something like a photo to prove the animals needed help or had died before they could issue a warrant.

I'm not saying to walk up to them and accuse them of any thing. I simply meant to ask them if they would want help caring for the horse lol. Not out and out saying they are not caring for the animal. That's why I said to ask NICELY if the op could help take care if it. Then before making claim they are abusing it, to actually see what is going on with it... It may be nothing or it could be. Trust me if nothing is going on they could wind up with not so nice neighbors.
 
Crazycoryfishlady
  • #25
It's a gamble to talk with the owners directly. Abusers doing it on purpose would lie. You're more likely to be screamed at and threatened then have an actual conversation even if they were good owners. If the horse is not being taken care of properly and they realize someone is on to them, they could move the horse to a different location or to a different part of the property that is not as easily observable, making it impossible for a humane agent to be able to report on the horse and gain access to it.

Humane agents exist for a reason. Please don't make their job harder! If it's a plainly viewable horse it's easy enough for them to drive by and check it out and decide what to do from there. We have had several cases of abuse locally where people who saw animal cop shows tried to get involved and made it worse. The abusive owners hid their horse/cattle/llama and then nothing could be done because the humane agents could not enter their property and the judges needed to see something like a photo to prove the animals needed help or had died before they could issue a warrant.

You see this happening way too much when "good sumaritans" step in.
Animals get removed from the property, sometimes sold or harmed even further during this.

Honestly I don't think it's stealing if an animal is abused.
If you chain your dog up in the dead winter and only a tiny house it can't fit in, no food, no water, I don't care how much you love your "guard dog who is just fine"
No animal deserved to live in those kinds of conditions.

Muddy areas for horses can cause severe bone damage as well as ingrown hooves which again, severe bone damage.
I don't see how causing an animal to become deformed by your neglect is considered okay or taking care of your animal.

It doesn't matter if your horse gets dirty and you think it's too much of a hassle to clean it.
If that animal has chunks of mud stuck in it's fur it's clearly neglect, you obivously don't let your own children walk around fithy and matted or leave them out in tiny sheds in awful muddy storms no protection.
And don't even try saying it's not the same.
It really is.
You purchased a responsibility.
That's usually a bit more planned than a child you decided to have.
It's called neglect when cats are obese and matted, why isn't the opposite the same for every animal?
If it's abuse to chain a dog or cat up with only a tiny shelter, then it shouldnt be allowed for any larger animal.

I doubt a vet would leave wounds bloody after treating a horse.
We all know vets have to sterilize wounds and depending on severity they would even wrap it up.
We also know, if people can afford an equine vet, they can afford basic care for their horse like ya know
Not letting it's hair get so tangled it has to painfully get cut off.
If they can afford a vet they can sure as heck afford a decent shelter for their animal and enough foor that no bones ever show from emaciation.

It is a huge responsibility to own a horse, and to not care for it's coat, hooves, or it's shelter, is to not care for the animal in the first place.

Why don't you just save yourself money in the long run, and sell your neglected animal so at least someone who cares can help it.

It is not stealing to seize an abused animal.
It is tresspassing, but if an animal is clearly in distress and neglected and you contact authorities telling them you seized said property to prevent further abuse, they aren't going to come over with handcuffs for you.
They're going to come investigate.

Now say your neighbors caught you seizing their animal, then they call it in.
It may appear as stealing at first and you may initially be taken as a criminal, but obviously if someone can see clear neglect of an animal, and you've contacted people who have done nothing, you won't be charged for theft.
I've taken animals before and handed them in, never charged because these animals were clearly uncared for.
You could even just go in to a shelter and say you found this animal clearly abused so it probably should get a new owner.
They won't always listen, but it's sometimes worth a shot.
 
Annie59
  • #26
We had horses for years. They had muddy areas, their hooves weren't bad nor did they get crippled. We had a barn so they had the option to stay in or out, but never cared for them like they do race horses lol. Didn't brush them ever day. Even got scrapes now and then. Had our vet out and he put ointment on it but two minutes later you wouldn't know it. Because they rubbed up against the fence or tree.

How many of us has taken our fish to a vet for anything? I never have myself.
How many times are we guessing what is wrong with the fish? How many times have we actually killed fish guessing what to medicate them with?

So if we compare what someone may "think" is going on with a horse to caring for fish we should all be turned in for animal abuse?
I'm sorry but telling a person (younger one at that if I'm not mistaken) to steal yes "steal" an animal is irresponsible to say the least.
Yes turn them in if you really think its going on, I'm just saying make sure or people can make your life miserable...
 

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Momgoose56
  • #27
Good for you, advocating for our voiceless vulnerable friends!
ASPCA is who I'd call for obvious criminal neglect and abuse. In many large cities they have their own peace officers. HSUS Is more a political lobbyist group with a bent on all no-kill shelters and improvement of shelters and general animal living conditions. Neither one in my opinion spends enough of their revenue on actually saving animals. However, in a case of blatant neglect or abuse where immediate or drastic measures are needed I'd go with ASPCA. For issues involving mild neglect or poor conditions but not imminently life threatening issues, I'd stick to your local humane society. Most do good for animals locally and local chapters really need community support. A horse that needs a bath in winter is not really a neglect case. For an animal that has NO shelter, NO dry place to stand, and is obviously malnourished (hair falling out in patches, numerous sores, hips/ribs visible) and/or underfed (visible ribs, hip bones, backbone, facial bones, weak, down on the ground) I'd call the ASPCA. And I'd continue to call them every day until I saw that they have responded. I'd also ask them to let me know when they've responded. They can't give you details but at least you'd know. Good job and keep those good eyes sharply focused!
 
Momgoose56
  • #28
You see this happening way too much when "good sumaritans" step in.
Animals get removed from the property, sometimes sold or harmed even further during this.

Honestly I don't think it's stealing if an animal is abused.
If you chain your dog up in the dead winter and only a tiny house it can't fit in, no food, no water, I don't care how much you love your "guard dog who is just fine"
No animal deserved to live in those kinds of conditions.

Muddy areas for horses can cause severe bone damage as well as ingrown hooves which again, severe bone damage.
I don't see how causing an animal to become deformed by your neglect is considered okay or taking care of your animal.

It doesn't matter if your horse gets dirty and you think it's too much of a hassle to clean it.
If that animal has chunks of mud stuck in it's fur it's clearly neglect, you obivously don't let your own children walk around fithy and matted or leave them out in tiny sheds in awful muddy storms no protection.
And don't even try saying it's not the same.
It really is.
You purchased a responsibility.
That's usually a bit more planned than a child you decided to have.
It's called neglect when cats are obese and matted, why isn't the opposite the same for every animal?
If it's abuse to chain a dog or cat up with only a tiny shelter, then it shouldnt be allowed for any larger animal.

I doubt a vet would leave wounds bloody after treating a horse.
We all know vets have to sterilize wounds and depending on severity they would even wrap it up.
We also know, if people can afford an equine vet, they can afford basic care for their horse like ya know
Not letting it's hair get so tangled it has to painfully get cut off.
If they can afford a vet they can sure as heck afford a decent shelter for their animal and enough foor that no bones ever show from emaciation.

It is a huge responsibility to own a horse, and to not care for it's coat, hooves, or it's shelter, is to not care for the animal in the first place.

Why don't you just save yourself money in the long run, and sell your neglected animal so at least someone who cares can help it.

It is not stealing to seize an abused animal.
It is tresspassing, but if an animal is clearly in distress and neglected and you contact authorities telling them you seized said property to prevent further abuse, they aren't going to come over with handcuffs for you.
They're going to come investigate.

Now say your neighbors caught you seizing their animal, then they call it in.
It may appear as stealing at first and you may initially be taken as a criminal, but obviously if someone can see clear neglect of an animal, and you've contacted people who have done nothing, you won't be charged for theft.
I've taken animals before and handed them in, never charged because these animals were clearly uncared for.
You could even just go in to a shelter and say you found this animal clearly abused so it probably should get a new owner.
They won't always listen, but it's sometimes worth a shot.
Don't know where you live but where I live, stealing anything is a crime and punishable with jail time, fines, probation, community service or all four. The courts do NOT care if you THINK you are doing the right thing. The courts uphold the LAW. The law does not always uphold what is ethical. So, that being said, instead of breaking the law to do what is ethical, do what is legal to uphold what is ethical. Contact the local humane society for minor neglect, contact the ASPCA for abuse, severe neglect etc. Help with fundraisers for local shelters and humane societies. Contact local news media if warranted to bring these problems to the public's attention. Volunteer, foster homeless animals (horses included) Contact your local legislators to push for harsher abuse/neglect penalties. Be PROactive instead of REactive. You won't do yourself or the animals any good sitting in a cage yourself!
 
Momgoose56
  • #29
I just have seen enough with these people and how they treat their horse.
There's a family that owns a horse near me, and they do not care for it properly.
It has two bloody wounds both on the leg and on the forehead.
Check your local laws
Spot Animal Abuse & Neglect

I have already emailed the HSUS about this and planning to call animal control.
This is gone on long enough, this horse shouldn't have to suffer because of the lack of care these people treat it with.
 
Momgoose56
  • #30
I got a response from the HSUS, and they said to call my local humane society next.
Yes. HSUS is national. They can't address local issues.
 

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