Need To Save My Betta

  1. ap4lmtree

    ap4lmtree Well Known Member Member

    My betta stayed at the bottom of the tank throughout the night. So, i figured he had SBD. Yesterday, I gave him two empson salt baths, and I had him overnight in general cure + furan-2 + kanaplex + methylene blue. Today, i changed his water and did a short epsom salt bath and then put him in his current methylene blue temp tank.

    I am afraid he wont make it. I added an airstone and increased the flow of air. He sometimes moves his pectoral fins more now that I increased his air oxygen. In fact, previously, before increasing the airflow, he did't move his pectoral fins but just lay on the floor.

    I think he might have constipation.

     
  2. TexasDomer

    TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    Is there a particular reason you treated with so many meds at once? Throwing multiple meds at a problem, especially if it's something like swim bladder which those may not do anything for, can be very stressful and do more harm than good.
     
  3. bryangar

    bryangar Well Known Member Member

    I definitely would say you went overboard with medicating. Most diseases are caused by water quality and cam be fixed with simply doing water changes.
    General cure and meth blue is fungal medicine. Does he have any fungus growing on him? Kanaplex and kuran are best when they are feed to the fish. Get a cup put pellets in it, put water and the medicine, mix it then give it to him. It’s to treat parasites.

    How much do you feed him in a day? What do you feed him? Do you fast him? How long? How often?

    What I would do is get him into a cycled tank, free of medicine. do daily water changes, fast him for 3 days, and at the end of the fasting feed him daphnia(a natural laxative) live or frozen or brine shrimp.

    Is he in his own tank? Why is the water so low? Fill it up, he doesn’t need to gulp air, he can breathe fine in water. It just limits the amount of water that can dilute the waste.
     




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    ap4lmtree

    ap4lmtree Well Known Member Member

    meth blue oxygenates cells and reduces stress.
     
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    ap4lmtree

    ap4lmtree Well Known Member Member

    methylene blue oxygenates cells and reduces stress. As such, it is used when shipping fish. The other meds were used in case he had the issues they are used for, such as bacteria infection. Kanaplex and furan dont need to be feed to fish, they are absorbed by the kidney and spread through the fish. They work conjunction together.

    I added 32 oz, but the low water level is so that he can more easily swim to the top for air if he wishes.
     
  6. TexasDomer

    TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    Yes, but you threw everything at him at once, and again, if it's swim bladder, meth blue (and the other meds) may not do anything. It's not a good idea to throw so many meds at a fish at once, especially when you have no idea what it is. You're stressing the fish and potentially encouraging resistance to meds by using them incorrectly/when they're not needed.

    If you think it's swim bladder, stop the meds, fast him for a few days, feed a deshelled, cooked pea, and do a few water changes a week.
     
  7. bryangar

    bryangar Well Known Member Member

    I am aware that it is what shippers use. It is also used to prevent fungus from growing on fish eggs. It still is not needed since he getting oxygen from the air stone.

    All the medicine you are giving him is just stressing him out even more. You can’t just dump a bucnh of medicine into his tank and hope one works. You need to know what it is he has.

    I have always used kanaplex through food and it has always worked for me when I need it. Its just my 2¢
     
  8. bryangar

    bryangar Well Known Member Member

    Bettas are insectivores, daphina would be better to use. A pea is full of sugar and starch which won’t really help the betta.
     
  9. TexasDomer

    TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    Yes, they are insectivores, but peas can help with swim bladder issues (and a few others). I wouldn't recommend feeding them as a regular part of the diet, but for certain issues, they can be helpful. Daphnia would be great, but not everyone has easy access to them.
     
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    ap4lmtree

    ap4lmtree Well Known Member Member

    He went from not using his pectoral fins and just laying there. Then, after the airstone and increasing the airflow he moves them all the time.

     
  11. TexasDomer

    TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    My recommendations can help constipation as well.