Need Help With Cherry Red Shrimp/fire Red Parameters

fluffysfishes
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It is good that it raised your PH that little bit and even better that it is lowering the ammonia. That is the way you are wanting to do it for the health of your fish and shrimp. Rapid changes in PH isn't good. Doing it this way should protect your water pets.

If you have time to do it you could do these very small water changes every 12 hours. By using the drip method the PH is rising very slowly and preventing drastic changes. I am just hoping that whatever was causing it to get so low won't undo the work you are doing.

It is possible that it will continue doing it until you have changed out enough water to get all of the PH regulator out of there. Only time and water changes will answer that question.

My ammonia is 0 now or a light shade of green ph seems to be a darker yellow/green nitrate is 20-40 nitrite 0 . Going to do another water change in a bit once I get some More prime

Salty shrimp GH/KH is normally usd in RO water where everything comes out at 0 and ph 7= neutral I've attached document for mattgirl and you to read it may give you a better understanding,

This is the defacto standard in remineralisers world wide. Salty Shrimp GH/KH+ is used to increase the mineral content soft water, RO/DI or rain water to a level suitable for shrimp. Salty Shrimp GH/KH+ increases GH AND KH (ratio 1:0.5)! Since KH has an influence on PH, this mineral is especially suited for shrimp that like higher PH and/or harder water like Cherry/Neocariddina and SulawesI Shrimp.

Shrimp Mineral GH/KH+ has been especially designed for the preparation of neutral aquarium water for keeping and breeding shrimp. It re-mineralises e.g. RO water, rainwater, fully desalinated water etc., raising total hardness (°dGH) and carbonate hardness (KH) at a ratio of °dGH/KH: 1.0/0.5. Especially shrimp from habitats with a neutral pH do very well in water prepared with this mineral salt.

Shrimp Mineral GH/KH+ contains all the important minerals and trace elements your shrimp need for their well-being, an intensive colouration, successful breeding and healthy growth. It also furthers plant growth and the microbial regeneration of biological filter substrates.

TDS plays a big role in. Cherries correct ? Out of tap my tds is 30-40 . The second I put in prime it goes to 250-300
 
richiep
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Prime mixd at it correct dose should only put the tds up 6 points in 12 ltr water, how yours goes up over 200 is beyond me
 
fluffysfishes
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Prime mixd at it correct dose should only put the tds up 6 points in 12 ltr water, how yours goes up over 200 is beyond me
I am probably mixing in a little too much . I’m using a Togo plastic container to mix it in approx 1/4 gallon. Should I get a gh booster to get my gh up a bit ?
 
richiep
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Id stick with mattgirl don't try to change things yet
 
fluffysfishes
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Okay will do . How can I determine if tank is properly cycled now . I am reading close to 0 ammonia if not none 0 nitrite and 20-40 nitrates . But the decrease in ammonia is probably from the wc
 
mattgirl
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I am probably mixing in a little too much . I’m using a Togo plastic container to mix it in approx 1/4 gallon. Should I get a gh booster to get my gh up a bit ?
Please don't try changing anything until we get your PH where it needs to be with water changes.

Since Prime is so concentrated it would be difficult not to put too much in when dosing a quart at a time. If you don't already have one you may want to consider getting a bigger container for the water you are treating. Since I have bigger tanks and do fairly big water changes I add 1/2ml of prime to 4 gallons at a time. A 1/2ml is only 4 or 5 drops.

I have a feeling your cycle is just about done and once we get the PH where it needs to be it is very possible you will stop getting an ammonia reading at all.
 
fluffysfishes
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I have lost 3 cherries today maybe from the wc ytd but I see 2 new baby shrimplets super tiny and white on my sponge smaller than the ones I saw last week

Please don't try changing anything until we get your PH where it needs to be with water changes.

Since Prime is so concentrated it would be difficult not to put too much in when dosing a quart at a time. If you don't already have one you may want to consider getting a bigger container for the water you are treating. Since I have bigger tanks and do fairly big water changes I add 1/2ml of prime to 4 gallons at a time. A 1/2ml is only 4 or 5 drops.

I have a feeling your cycle is just about done and once we get the PH where it needs to be it is very possible you will stop getting an ammonia reading at all.
Okay . I have a 1 gallon jug somewhere which I’ll probably use later today .
 
mattgirl
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I have lost 3 cherries today maybe from the wc ytd but I see 2 new baby shrimplets super tiny and white on my sponge smaller than the ones I saw last week
I am sorry to hear that. From all I have read shrimp don't do well in an uncycled tank. Hopefully you won't lose them all and once this tank gets stabilized they will thrive.
 
fluffysfishes
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I am sorry to hear that. From all I have read shrimp don't do well in an uncycled tank. Hopefully you won't lose them all and once this tank gets stabilized they will thrive.
Hope so too . I see another berried cherry too
 
fluffysfishes
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I am sorry to hear that. From all I have read shrimp don't do well in an uncycled tank. Hopefully you won't lose them all and once this tank gets stabilized they will thrive.

Ph is about 6.4 now . I think the ph was lower than 6 the first day I found out . Here’s what it looks like now
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Yesterday was about 10% today I did about 20% wc
 
mattgirl
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Ph is about 6.4 now . I think the ph was lower than 6 the first day I found out . Here’s what it looks like now View attachment 529186

It looks like you are heading in the right direction. Good job
 
fluffysfishes
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mattgirl Since my tap contains maybe .25 of ammonia by tomorrow morning if I test it should be 0 if my tank is cycled ?
 
mattgirl
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mattgirl Since my tap contains maybe .25 of ammonia by tomorrow morning if I test it should be 0 if my tank is cycled ?
yes, it should be.
 
fluffysfishes
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Can’t really find info . Someone who knows shrimps can you help ? I see some molts their big so I assume it’s one of the adult ones . When they molt are they king of glossy and shiny ? Seems like some of them just molted and there isn’t a shell on or something

yes, it should be.
Bad news woke up this morning and ph is under 6 or 6 again ... decided to just do a 40-45% and hope I can remove the ph regulator out . Guppies are fine active and chasing but shrimp al look like their trying to molt . So far only loosing the bigger adult shrimp the smaller baby and juvenile shrimp don’t seem to mind as much . Hope this water change stops the ph swings

mattgirl test this morning we’re ammonia 0 nitrate 20 ph 6 or under
 
mattgirl
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Bad news woke up this morning and ph is under 6 or 6 again ... decided to just do a 40-45% and hope I can remove the ph regulator out . Guppies are fine active and chasing but shrimp al look like their trying to molt . So far only loosing the bigger adult shrimp the smaller baby and juvenile shrimp don’t seem to mind as much . Hope this water change stops the ph swings

mattgirl test this morning we’re ammonia 0 nitrate 20 ph 6 or under
It sounds like your cycle is done. Hopefully the bigger water changes will get the PH up and stable.
 
fluffysfishes
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It sounds like your cycle is done. Hopefully the bigger water changes will get the PH up and stable.
Got it to 6.6ph with the most recent water change in going to do another 10-15% tonight

Got it to 6.6ph with the most recent water change in going to do another 10-15% tonight
It’s a little scary how the ph regulator is doing this ? I think yesterday’s water change wasn’t enough
 
fluffysfishes
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mattgirl I really need help . It crashed again to ph 6.0 again . Not even 12 hours yet . The water change was fairly big . Should I do a 70%?
 
mattgirl
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I don't know for sure but it is possible that crushed coral will help stabilize your PH. I know I have soft water and have to keep it in all of my tanks to keep mine from dropping.

You may want to start another thread and see if there is someone here that knows a lot more about this than I do. I was lucky that the crushed coral worked for me but there may be other things that I don't know about to get yours up and keep it there.
 
ETNsilverstar
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I'd do another 50% water change and if they pH drops again, add some crushed coral. It will at least be a step toward hopefully stabilizing the pH. I wouldn't add anything else yet though.
 

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