Need help not sure what it is

Mellaana

We have a set up 13 gallon tank that's been up for about a month now water tests and everything come back perfect. We're using gravel and Flourite Premium Natural Substrate for the plants. Every few days we change the filter due to it being brown within a few days just curious what it is and if we actually need to be changing the filter or if it's ok. The filter shown was just put in 2 days ago. Please help and thank you so much in advance
 

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awilkinson871

Welcome. Never change the filter unless it is literally falling apart. Most of the beneficial bacteria lives on filter media so every time to change it you are throwing away your cycle.
 

mimo91088

You never need to change the pads unless they're physically falling apart (and I mean real bad). A good amount of your beneficial bacteria lives there. The recommended change intervals are just so the manufacturer can sell more filter pads. Just rinse them in tank water at each water change so they don't get clogged.
 

Mellaana

Welcome. Never change the filter unless it is literally falling apart. Most of the beneficial bacteria lives on filter media so every time to change it you are throwing away your cycle.
We've also been having an issue with the filter cartridge itself turning completely brown and a brown slimmy stringy substance growing all over the entire filter (cartridge and filter system) after just a few days. If I still had the filter from the other day Id post a picture of it
 

jtjgg

take a bucket of the tank water and rinse out the filter pad.
 

StarGirl

Welcome to Fishlore! :)

Do you have a piece of driftwood in there? It kinda looks like tannins or diatoms color. Have you changed any water out yet?
 

Mellaana

Welcome. Never change the filter unless it is literally falling apart. Most of the beneficial bacteria lives on filter media so every time to change it you are throwing away your cycle.
We've had this issue since we had an amonia spike when my pleco died and we didn't notice for a day. We got the amonia under control almost right away but since we've had this issue
Welcome to Fishlore! :)

Do you have a piece of driftwood in there? It kinda looks like tannins or diatoms color. Have you changed any water out yet?
We don't have driftwood. The ramp is resin. We have bamboo java Ferns and whatever these plants are. The brown stone is Flourite Premium Natural Substrate Clay. We've done an entire water change since we started having this issue.
 

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StarGirl

We've had this issue since we had an amonia spike when my pleco died and we didn't notice for a day. We got the amonia under control almost right away but since we've had this issue

We don't have driftwood. The ramp is resin. We have bamboo java Ferns and whatever these plants are. The brown stone is Flourite Premium Natural Substrate Clay. We've done an entire water change since we started having this issue.
I wonder if it is coming from the clay then. I have not used that kind of substrate so I dont know if it leeches anything like that.

Edit I just looked at some reviews and they were rinsing some pretty red brown water. I bet thats what it is. Maybe you can squeeze some extra filter floss in the filter area?

Another note....the Java ferns and (that plant) is an Anubia. They need the ball looking rhizome to be above the substrate or tied to something. That ball will rot if it is buried. Then the plant will die. Just a heads up. ;)
 

Mellaana

I wonder if it is coming from the clay then. I have not used that kind of substrate so I dont know if it leeches anything like that.

Edit I just looked at some reviews and they were rinsing some pretty red brown water. I bet thats what it is. Maybe you can squeeze some extra filter floss in the filter area?

Another note....the Java ferns and (that plant) is an Anubia. They need the ball looking rhizome to be above the substrate or tied to something. That ball will rot if it is buried. Then the plant will die. Just a heads up. ;)
What's filter floss? We've had this tank since beginning of July and the plants have been planted as they are now and are actually thriving. All the smaller leaves and the small java Fern are all fresh growth. The java Ferns were originally in a bunch (all from PetSmart) and had started growing baby java Ferns in the leaves and suffocating so we separated the java Fern as it is now and pulled that baby one off and planted it when it was only about a quarter inch tall it's at least tripled in size since planting like that
 

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StarGirl

Filter floss is like the stuff in a pillow. You can buy quilt batting or the loose fluff. I use the sheet quilt batting from Walmart myself I think its called extra loft or something.
 

Mellaana

Filter floss is like the stuff in a pillow. You can buy quilt batting or the loose fluff. I use the sheet quilt batting from Walmart myself I think its called extra loft or something.
That's the filter we have. There's less than a finger if space between the filter cartridge and the back of the filter. Where would the filter floss go? Also do you know any tips or anything to help an angel fish regrow its tail? We had a female Black Gold Dust molly who attacked our Angelfish and tore it's entire tail off. It's regrowing but slowly so we have it in a breeder tank until it's healed since it can barely swim.
 

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StarGirl

Just keep the water really clean. change water a few times a week.
 

Mellaana

Just keep the water really clean. change water a few times a week.
Ok thank you so much for all your help!!
 

ruud

I might be mistaken but it looks like you don't have a sponge, or better yet, some mesh protector/filter guard, on the intake of your filter. Larger pieces of....whatever you have in your tank can be sucked up and clog your filter perhaps a bit too quick. If you have a sponge or mesh protector, then you can easily see larger parts on the protector or sponge; just clean the protector or sponge every once in a while. Don't mind the bacteria that your wash away by doing this; that is not the primary function of a protector.

The media inside your filter will run for a (much) longer time without hassle.
 

jtjgg

adding extra filter media

 

Mellaana

Finally got a picture of the stuff growing on the filter
Finally got a picture of the stuff growing on the filter
Just realized our baby black Gold dust molly photobombed lol
 

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